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Tools for Overcoming Substance & Behavioral Addictions | Ryan Soave

Huberman Lab

The Huberman Lab podcast is hosted by Andrew Huberman, Ph.D., a neuroscientist and tenured professor in the department of neurobiology, and by courtesy, psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Stanford School of Medicine. The podcast discusses neuroscience and science-based tools, including how our brain and its connections with the organs of our body control our perceptions, our behaviors, and our health, as well as existing and emerging tools for measuring and changing how our nervous system works.
Huberman has made numerous significant contributions to the fields of brain development, brain function, and neural plasticity, which is the ability of our nervous system to rewire and learn new behaviors, skills, and cognitive functioning. He is a McKnight Foundation and Pew Foundation Fellow and was awarded the Cogan Award, given to the scientist making the most significant discoveries in the study of vision, in 2017. 
Work from the Huberman Laboratory at Stanford School of Medicine has been published in top journals, including Nature, Science, and Cell, and has been featured in TIME, BBC, Scientific American, Discover, and other top media outlets.
In 2021, Dr. Huberman launched the Huberman Lab podcast. The podcast is frequently ranked in the top 10 of all podcasts globally and is often ranked #1 in the categories of Science, Education, and Health & Fitness.

My guest is Ryan Soave, LMHC, a leading expert in addiction recovery with extensive experience helping people heal from all types of substance and behavioral dependencies. We discuss actionable tools for breaking out of the addictive cycle and staying free of obsessions and compulsions. We also examine the relationship between trauma and addiction.

We explore the full recovery process—from detoxing and physical stabilization to building distress tolerance. We review evidence-supported tools to structure your life at each stage of recovery and highlight the power of learning “self-directed state shifting” through yoga nidra (NSDR), breathwork, meditation and prayer.

We explain how to recognize signs of addiction in yourself and others, and the treatment options available across all levels of resources, from residential programs to 12-step. If you or someone you know is struggling with any kind of addiction, this episode offers practical steps to break free and stay free.

Read the episode show notes at hubermanlab.com.

Thank you to our sponsors
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Timestamps
00:00:00 Ryan Soave
00:01:32 Addiction, Addictive Behaviors, Relief
00:06:10 Rehab, Detox, Physical & Emotional Stability
00:13:33 Sponsors: BetterHelp & Levels
00:16:08 Recognizing Addition; Video Games, Parents & Responsibility
00:23:38 Experiencing Real Life vs Addictive Behavior; Dopamine Dynamics
00:29:38 Drugs & Feelings; Reordering Your Life; Roles, Kids vs Parents
00:40:03 Sponsors: AG1 & LMNT
00:43:13 Tool: 30 Days Abstinence & Addiction; Impact
00:46:10 Creating a Life Post-Addiction, Jellinek Curve
00:55:30 Tool: Emotional Weather Forecast, Gratitude, Plan, Strivings
01:02:48 Connection with Others, Mental Willpower Throughout Day, Defining Best Self
01:08:39 Emotional Weather Map, Navigating Life
01:10:16 Sponsor: Function
01:12:03 Tolerating Stress, Sailing Analogy, Discomfort
01:16:03 Building Distress Tolerance, Proactive Behaviors, Cold Plunge
01:23:55 Stilling Leads to Seeing, Tool: Recognizing Stress Response; Relationships
01:30:56 Yoga Nidra, Non-Sleep Deep Rest (NDSR)
01:38:54 Yoga Nidra & Authenticity, Breaking Patterns
01:45:45 Yoga Nidra Timing, Regulation of Autonomic Nervous System; Breathwork
01:52:53 Sponsor: Waking Up
01:54:28 Alcoholism, Social Acceptability, Community, AA, Powerlessness
02:02:23 Gambling, Kids & Susceptibility
02:08:58 Transmuting Energy, Running, Dopamine, Feelings
02:15:41 Cocaine, Amphetamine, Stimulant Addiction
02:18:21 Overcoming Porn Addiction, Shame
02:30:03 Struggle, “Discomfort Appetite”
02:36:09 Addiction Treatment, Detox, Rehab Centers, 12-Step Meetings, AA
02:46:54 Is Addiction the Problem?, Trauma, Stress & Addiction Cycle
02:49:05 GLP-1 Agonists & Addiction Treatment?, HALT; Addicted to Stress?
02:52:44 Sugar Addiction, Caffeine; Ibogaine, Psylocibin & Considerations
02:59:56 Helping Someone With Addiction
03:04:58 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter

Disclaimer & Disclosures

My guest is Ryan Soave, LMHC, a leading expert in addiction recovery with extensive experience helping people heal from all types of substance and behavioral dependencies. We discuss actionable tools for breaking out of the addictive cycle and staying free of obsessions and compulsions. We also examine the relationship between trauma and addiction.

We explore the full recovery process—from detoxing and physical stabilization to building distress tolerance. We review evidence-supported tools to structure your life at each stage of recovery and highlight the power of learning “self-directed state shifting” through yoga nidra (NSDR), breathwork, meditation and prayer.

We explain how to recognize signs of addiction in yourself and others, and the treatment options available across all levels of resources, from residential programs to 12-step. If you or someone you know is struggling with any kind of addiction, this episode offers practical steps to break free and stay free.

Read the episode show notes at hubermanlab.com.

Thank you to our sponsors

AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman

BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/huberman

Levels: https://levelshealth.com/huberman

LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/huberman

Function: https://functionhealth.com/huberman

Waking Up: https://wakingup.com/huberman

Timestamps

00:00:00 Ryan Soave

00:01:32 Addiction, Addictive Behaviors, Relief

00:06:10 Rehab, Detox, Physical & Emotional Stability

00:13:33 Sponsors: BetterHelp & Levels

00:16:08 Recognizing Addition; Video Games, Parents & Responsibility

00:23:38 Experiencing Real Life vs Addictive Behavior; Dopamine Dynamics

00:29:38 Drugs & Feelings; Reordering Your Life; Roles, Kids vs Parents

00:40:03 Sponsors: AG1 & LMNT

00:43:13 Tool: 30 Days Abstinence & Addiction; Impact

00:46:10 Creating a Life Post-Addiction, Jellinek Curve

00:55:30 Tool: Emotional Weather Forecast, Gratitude, Plan, Strivings

01:02:48 Connection with Others, Mental Willpower Throughout Day, Defining Best Self

01:08:39 Emotional Weather Map, Navigating Life

01:10:16 Sponsor: Function

01:12:03 Tolerating Stress, Sailing Analogy, Discomfort

01:16:03 Building Distress Tolerance, Proactive Behaviors, Cold Plunge

01:23:55 Stilling Leads to Seeing, Tool: Recognizing Stress Response; Relationships

01:30:56 Yoga Nidra, Non-Sleep Deep Rest (NDSR)

01:38:54 Yoga Nidra & Authenticity, Breaking Patterns

01:45:45 Yoga Nidra Timing, Regulation of Autonomic Nervous System; Breathwork

01:52:53 Sponsor: Waking Up

01:54:28 Alcoholism, Social Acceptability, Community, AA, Powerlessness

02:02:23 Gambling, Kids & Susceptibility

02:08:58 Transmuting Energy, Running, Dopamine, Feelings

02:15:41 Cocaine, Amphetamine, Stimulant Addiction

02:18:21 Overcoming Porn Addiction, Shame

02:30:03 Struggle, “Discomfort Appetite”

02:36:09 Addiction Treatment, Detox, Rehab Centers, 12-Step Meetings, AA

02:46:54 Is Addiction the Problem?, Trauma, Stress & Addiction Cycle

02:49:05 GLP-1 Agonists & Addiction Treatment?, HALT; Addicted to Stress?

02:52:44 Sugar Addiction, Caffeine; Ibogaine, Psylocibin & Considerations

02:59:56 Helping Someone With Addiction

03:04:58 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter

Disclaimer & Disclosures
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