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China - A Battle of Values | Grey Zone Ep 7

The Wargame

Russia knows our weaknesses. But do you?   

A major five-part series from Sky News and Tortoise which imagines how a Russian attack on the UK could play out – and invites real-life former ministers, military chiefs and other experts to figure out how to defend the country.   

Written and presented by Sky News' security and defence editor, Deborah Haynes.

This is Deborah's second podcast series for Sky News. In her first series, Into The Grey Zone, Deborah explores the murky evolution of warfare.

What do assassinations, cyber hacks and disinformation have in common? They're all weapons used by states against each other in a grey zone of harm under the threshold of war, but could be just as dangerous if ignored.

This episode explores a global battle of values between China and leading democracies over issues like Hong Kong, Taiwan and Xinjiang. It’s being fought with an array of covert weapons, from cyber attacks and information operations to economic coercion and even something called “lawfare”. Allegations of such behaviour are made and denied by both sides, which of course is to be expected - in the grey zone. Guests: Tom Tugendhat, Conservative MP, chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee Matthew Turpin, visiting fellow, Hoover Institution Charlie Parton, former British diplomat, senior fellow at the Royal United Services Institute Dr Shi Yinhong, Director of the Academic Committee of the School of International Studies and US Research Center of Renmin University in Beijing Nathan Law, pro-democracy activist from Hong Kong Julie Marionneau, research fellow, Policy Exchange Freddy Lim, Taiwanese politician, lead singer of heavy-metal band Chthonic Alexander Downer, former Australian foreign minister Puma Shen, assistant professor at National Taipei University Chinese embassy in London – via email statement Credits: Written and narrated by Deborah Haynes Edited and produced by Chris Scott Production support from Michael Greenfield The head of Sky News Radio is Dave Terris

This episode explores a global battle of values between China and leading democracies over issues like Hong Kong, Taiwan and Xinjiang.It’s being fought with an array of covert weapons, from cyber attacks and information operations to economic coercion and even something called “lawfare”.Allegations of such behaviour are made and denied by both sides, which of course is to be expected - in the grey zone.Guests:Tom Tugendhat, Conservative MP, chair of the Foreign Affairs CommitteeMatthew Turpin, visiting fellow, Hoover InstitutionCharlie Parton, former British diplomat, senior fellow at the Royal United Services InstituteDr Shi Yinhong, Director of the Academic Committee of the School of International Studies and US Research Center of Renmin University in BeijingNathan Law, pro-democracy activist from Hong KongJulie Marionneau, research fellow, Policy ExchangeFreddy Lim, Taiwanese politician, lead singer of heavy-metal band ChthonicAlexander Downer, former Australian foreign ministerPuma Shen, assistant professor at National Taipei UniversityChinese embassy in London – via email statementCredits:Written and narrated by Deborah Haynes Edited and produced by Chris ScottProduction support from Michael GreenfieldThe head of Sky News Radio is Dave Terris

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