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#840: Bill Gurley — Investing in The AI Era, 10 Days in China, and Important Life Lessons from Bob Dylan, Jerry Seinfeld, MrBeast, and More

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Tim Ferriss is a self-experimenter and bestselling author, best known for The 4-Hour Workweek, which has been translated into 40+ languages. Newsweek calls him "the world's best human guinea pig," and The New York Times calls him "a cross between Jack Welch and a Buddhist monk." In this show, he deconstructs world-class performers from eclectic areas (investing, chess, pro sports, etc.), digging deep to find the tools, tactics, and tricks that listeners can use.

Bill Gurley (<a href="https://x.com/bgurley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bgurley</a>) is a general partner at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/benchmark-vc/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Benchmark</a>, a leading venture capital firm in Silicon Valley. His new book is <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Runnin-Down-Dream-Thrive-Actually/dp/0593799666/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Runnin’ Down a Dream: How to Thrive in a Career You Actually Love</a>.This episode is brought to you by:<ul><li><a href="https://livemomentous.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Momentous</a> high-quality creatine for cognitive and muscular support</li><li><a href="https://fromourplace.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Place’s Titanium Always Pan® Pro</a> using nonstick technology that’s coating-free and made without PFAS, otherwise known as “Forever Chemicals”</li><li><a href="https://shopify.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shopify</a> global commerce platform, providing tools to start, grow, market, and manage a retail business</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Exploding-Kittens-Ferriss-Present-Minutes/dp/B0FBT88VRJ/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coyote the card game​</a>, which I co-created with Exploding Kittens</li></ul>*For show notes and past guests on <a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Tim Ferriss Show</a>, please visit <a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/podcast</a>.For deals from sponsors of <a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Tim Ferriss Show</a>, please visit <a href="https://tim.blog/podcast-sponsors" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/podcast-sponsors</a>Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (5-Bullet Friday) at <a href="https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-1/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/friday</a>.For transcripts of episodes, go to <a href="https://tim.blog/transcripts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/transcripts</a>.Discover Tim’s books: <a href="https://tim.blog/books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/books</a>.Follow Tim:Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/tferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/tferriss</a> Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/timferriss/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instagram.com/timferriss</a>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/timferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">youtube.com/timferriss</a>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">facebook.com/timferriss</a> LinkedIn: <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/timferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/timferriss</a>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.

Bill Gurley (<a href="https://x.com/bgurley" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bgurley</a>) is a general partner at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/benchmark-vc/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Benchmark</a>, a leading venture capital firm in Silicon Valley. His new book is <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Runnin-Down-Dream-Thrive-Actually/dp/0593799666/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Runnin’ Down a Dream: How to Thrive in a Career You Actually Love</a>.This episode is brought to you by:<ul><li><a href="https://livemomentous.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Momentous</a> high-quality creatine for cognitive and muscular support</li><li><a href="https://fromourplace.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Our Place’s Titanium Always Pan® Pro</a> using nonstick technology that’s coating-free and made without PFAS, otherwise known as “Forever Chemicals”</li><li><a href="https://shopify.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shopify</a> global commerce platform, providing tools to start, grow, market, and manage a retail business</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Exploding-Kittens-Ferriss-Present-Minutes/dp/B0FBT88VRJ/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coyote the card game​</a>, which I co-created with Exploding Kittens</li></ul>*Timestamps:<ul><li>[00:00:00] Start.</li><li>[00:01:43] The book that gave Jerry Seinfeld permission to pursue comedy and inspired <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593799666?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Runnin’ Down a Dream</a>.</li><li>[00:03:59] AI bubble or not?</li><li>[00:06:33] Circular deals and SPV chaos.</li><li>[00:12:01] Angel investing in the AI era.</li><li>[00:14:32] Why you should be the most AI-enabled version of yourself, regardless of field.</li><li>[00:20:47] China deep dive: Ten days, six cities, high-speed trains, and a Xiaomi SU7 factory tour.</li><li>[00:22:43] Communism misconceptions.</li><li>[00:25:40] Lei Jun: The Steve Jobs of China.</li><li>[00:29:17] Jack Ma, ByteDance’s invisible CEO, and the risks of prominence in China.</li><li>[00:32:11] America vs. China (Lawyers vs. engineers).</li><li>[00:41:01] Keys for US competitiveness.</li><li>[00:43:47] Bill is bullish on these countries.</li><li>[00:47:30] Matthew McConaughey’s “Don’t half ass it” moment.</li><li>[00:49:45] <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593799666?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Runnin’ Down a Dream</a> thesis: Helping people pursue X instead of A, B, or C.</li><li>[00:51:03] The 80,000-hour question.</li><li>[00:52:47] The self-learning test.</li><li>[00:56:58] Bob Dylan as music expeditionary.</li><li>[01:00:27] Go to the epicenter where the action is.</li><li>[01:10:56] Danny Meyer’s pivot.</li><li>[01:13:30] Working for free.</li><li>[01:19:37] Never too late: Tito Beveridge started Tito’s Vodka at 40.</li><li>[01:21:51] AI sanity checks.</li><li>[01:25:59] AI-proof bets.</li><li>[01:29:13] Sam Hinkie’s Moneyball moment.</li><li>[01:32:37] Competitive strategy, avoiding false failures, and regret minimalization.</li><li>[01:43:46] Purpose, Progress, and Prosperity — the P3 Policy Institute.</li><li>[01:47:18] Regulatory capture explained.</li><li>[01:51:55] Why the IPO market is broken.</li><li>[02:01:52] Stablecoins putting Visa and Mastercard on notice.</li><li>[02:03:40] Hopes for <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593799666?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Runnin’ Down a Dream</a> and parting thoughts.</li></ul>*For show notes and past guests on <a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Tim Ferriss Show</a>, please visit <a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/podcast</a>.For deals from sponsors of <a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Tim Ferriss Show</a>, please visit <a href="https://tim.blog/podcast-sponsors" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/podcast-sponsors</a>Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (5-Bullet Friday) at <a href="https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-1/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/friday</a>.For transcripts of episodes, go to <a href="https://tim.blog/transcripts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/transcripts</a>.Discover Tim’s books: <a href="https://tim.blog/books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/books</a>.Follow Tim:Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/tferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/tferriss</a> Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/timferriss/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instagram.com/timferriss</a>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/timferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">youtube.com/timferriss</a>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">facebook.com/timferriss</a> LinkedIn: <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/timferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/timferriss</a>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.

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