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#831: Frank Miller, Comic Book Legend — Creative Process, The Dark Knight Returns, Sin City, 300, and Much More

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Tim Ferriss is a self-experimenter and bestselling author, best known for The 4-Hour Workweek, which has been translated into 40+ languages. Newsweek calls him "the world's best human guinea pig," and The New York Times calls him "a cross between Jack Welch and a Buddhist monk." In this show, he deconstructs world-class performers from eclectic areas (investing, chess, pro sports, etc.), digging deep to find the tools, tactics, and tricks that listeners can use.

Frank Miller is regarded as one of the most influential and awarded creators. He began his career in comics in the late 1970s, first gaining notoriety as the artist, and later writer, of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Daredevil-Again-Marvel-Premier-Collection/dp/1302965980/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daredevil</a> for Marvel Comics. Next, came the science-fiction samurai drama <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Frank-Millers-Ronin-Black-Label/dp/1401290973/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ronin</a>, followed by the groundbreaking <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Batman-Dark-Knight-Returns-Anniversary/dp/1401263119/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Batman: The Dark Knight Returns</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Batman-Year-One-Frank-Miller/dp/1401207529/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Batman: Year One</a> with artist David Mazzuchelli. Following these seminal works, Miller fulfilled a lifelong dream by doing an all-out crime series, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A7H2NC4/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sin City</a>, which spawned two blockbuster films that he co-directed with Robert Rodriguez. Miller’s multi-award-winning graphic novel <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A7H2MG6/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">300</a> was also adapted into a highly successful film by Zack Snyder. His upcoming memoir, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1668065290?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Push the Wall: My Life, Writing, Drawing, and the Art of Storytelling</a>, is now available for pre-order.This episode is brought to you by: <a href="https://www.eightsleep.com/tim/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eight Sleep Pod Cover 5</a> sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating: <a href="https://www.eightsleep.com/tim/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">EightSleep.com/Tim</a> (use code TIM to get $350 off your very own Pod 5 Ultra.)<a href="https://shopify.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shopify</a> global commerce platform, providing tools to start, grow, market, and manage a retail business: <a href="https://shopify.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://shopify.com/tim</a> (one-dollar-per-month trial period)<a href="https://drinkag1.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" 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and defy the code.</li><li>[00:19:54] The ruthless mentorship of Neal Adams.</li><li>[00:24:57] The genesis of the Elektra amd Daredevil “soap opera.”</li><li>[00:27:56] Story structure: Start late, end early.</li><li>[00:29:10] Trusting the muse over rigid methodology.</li><li>[00:31:15] European invasion: Moebius and Forbidden Planet.</li><li>[00:32:52] Japanese influence: Lone Wolf and Cub‘s impact.</li><li>[00:34:30] Cultural differences in depicting violence and motion.</li><li>[00:36:38] Ronin: Shameless imitation and rebirth.</li><li>[00:37:28] How does Frank know if something is working (or not working)?</li><li>[00:39:27] The critical reception of Ronin as a “broken nose.”</li><li>[00:42:37] The ruthless structure of The Dark Knight Returns.</li><li>[00:43:40] Mutual elevation with “smartest fan” Alan Moore.</li><li>[00:48:26] Robert Rodriguez: Angel of goodwill and generosity.</li><li>[00:49:28] Sin City film: Co-directing and the Director’s Guild sacrifice.</li><li>[00:50:31] Working as a “two-headed beast” with Rodriguez.</li><li>[00:55:27] Favorite films.</li><li>[00:58:19] Books and ancient history inspiring 300.</li><li>[00:59:00] Hollywood lessons: The importance of working with the right people.</li><li>[01:01:13] The partnership and guidance of Silenn Thomas.</li><li>[01:02:01] The clarity and creative rejuvenation of getting sober from alcohol.</li><li>[01:04:48] Advice for aspiring comic artists: Story, story, story.</li><li>[01:06:20] Learning to draw: Bridgman and Loomis books.</li><li>[01:08:07] Perspective as a mathematical trick and lie.</li><li>[01:11:00] Dick Giordano’s advice: Lay in blacks first.</li><li>[01:13:52] Sin City workflow innovation: Batch processing stages.</li><li>[01:15:48] Dark Horse Comics and creative freedom.</li><li>[01:17:29] Economy of line work and elegant minimalism.</li><li>[01:20:46] On collaborating with Bill Sienkiewicz on Elektra.</li><li>[01:25:20] Billboard wisdom: “Ask every question,” and “Why?”</li><li>[01:27:08] Challenging pathological conformity.</li><li>[01:27:39] Parting thoughts and where to find Frank’s work.</li></ul> *For show notes and past guests on <a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Tim Ferriss Show</a>, please visit <a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/podcast</a>.For deals from sponsors of <a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Tim Ferriss Show</a>, please visit <a href="https://tim.blog/podcast-sponsors" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/podcast-sponsors</a>Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (5-Bullet Friday) at <a href="https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-1/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/friday</a>.For transcripts of episodes, go to <a href="https://tim.blog/transcripts" rel="noopener 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