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#405: Penn Jillette on Magic, Losing 100+ Pounds, and Weaponizing Kindness

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Tim Ferriss is a self-experimenter and bestselling author, best known for The 4-Hour Workweek, which has been translated into 40+ languages. Newsweek calls him "the world's best human guinea pig," and The New York Times calls him "a cross between Jack Welch and a Buddhist monk." In this show, he deconstructs world-class performers from eclectic areas (investing, chess, pro sports, etc.), digging deep to find the tools, tactics, and tricks that listeners can use.

Penn Jillette on Magic, Losing 100+ Pounds, and Weaponizing Kindness | Brought to you by <a href="http://brave.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brave</a> and <a href="https://linkedin.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn Jobs</a>."One of the biggest challenges we face is staying kind with profound disagreement—and staying kind when a mechanism has been set up to make money and power out of hate." — Penn JillettePenn Jillette (<a href="https://twitter.com/pennjillette" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@pennjillette</a>) is a cultural phenomenon as a solo personality and as half of the world-famous, Emmy Award-winning magic duo and Las Vegas headliners <a href="https://www.caesars.com/rio-las-vegas/shows/penn-and-teller" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Penn & Teller</a>.Together since 1975, Penn & Teller's live show spent years on Broadway and is now the longest-running headliner show in Las Vegas where it plays nightly at The Rio All-Suite Hotel & Casino. The pair has been awarded Las Vegas Magicians of the Year an amazing eights times.As part of Penn & Teller he has appeared on hundreds of shows, from The Simpsons and Friends to Billions. He recently co-wrote an episode of the Emmy-winning Netflix series Black Mirror.He co-hosted the controversial Showtime series <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Talking-to-the-Dead/dp/B00EC8015K/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=Penn+&+Teller:+Bullshit!&qid=1578536042&sr=8-1&linkCode=ll1&tag=jhsbooks-20&linkId=9f01936a3f2cf967af819f7d08d9fe05&language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Penn & Teller: Bullshit!</a> which was nominated for thirteen Emmy Awards, won him a Writers Guild award, and was the longest-running show in the history of the network. He currently co-hosts the CW Network hit competition series <a href="https://www.cwtv.com/shows/penn-teller-fool-us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Penn & Teller: Fool Us!</a> which was nominated for a 2017 Critics' Choice award.Penn's latest book, The New York Times Best Seller <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Presto-Pounds-Disappear-Other-Magical/dp/1501139525/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=Presto!&qid=1578536143&sr=8-3&linkCode=ll1&tag=jhsbooks-20&linkId=b3e61492657c4d9d20021256d3bc3a7b&language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Presto!</a> takes an insightful and very humorous look at his recent weight loss journey. His previous book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/God-No-Already-Atheist-Magical/dp/1451610378/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=God+No!+Signs+You+Might+Be+An+Atheist+and+Other+Magic+Tales&qid=1578536189&sr=8-1-fkmr0&linkCode=ll1&tag=jhsbooks-20&linkId=832bc760b3ddbd26a0902cc165ff716e&language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">God No! Signs You Might Be An Atheist and Other Magic Tales</a>, spent six weeks on The New York Times Best Sellers list.His weekly podcast, <a href="https://pennsundayschool.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Penn's Sunday School</a>, was the number one downloaded podcast on Apple Podcasts during its debut week, and was named a Best New Comedy Podcast by Apple Podcasts.On the big screen, Penn produced the critically lauded 2005 documentary <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Aristocrats-Jason-Alexander/dp/B07VQNWBLT/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=The+Aristocrats&qid=1578536238&sr=8-1&linkCode=ll1&tag=jhsbooks-20&linkId=e8c64d066fd1322cd7e92586af6ded2b&language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Aristocrats</a>, which features over 100 of the biggest names in comedy telling their versions of the dirtiest joke in history. He produced <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Tims-Vermeer-Martin-Mull/dp/B00K31E8NQ/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=Tim's+Vermeer&qid=1578536266&sr=8-1&linkCode=ll1&tag=jhsbooks-20&linkId=3e23b75d43dfcc95b37765feed37998a&language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tim's Vermeer</a>, which follows the journey of an eccentric inventor determined to solve one of the art world's oldest mysteries. The Sony Pictures Classics release was nominated for a BAFTA and was shortlisted for the 2014 Oscars. He has recently completed the documentary <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Gamblers-Ballad-Legend-Johnny-Thompson/dp/B07HZ531C6/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=The+Gambler's+Ballad&qid=1578536299&sr=8-1&linkCode=ll1&tag=jhsbooks-20&linkId=92ceb9a8c69f2573ae9a6091ca05b696&language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gambler's Ballad</a> profiling magic legend Johnny Thompson.Penn & Teller have their very own star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and triumphantly returned to Broadway recently with <a href="http://www.playbill.com/production/penn-teller-on-broadway-marquis-theatre-vault-0000014117" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Penn & Teller On Broadway</a>, which was the highest-grossing non-musical for the entirety of its run.Please enjoy!This episode is brought to you by <a href="http://Brave.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brave</a>, the next-generation Web browser. Brave was built by a team of privacy-focused, performance-oriented pioneers of the Web at the direction of Brendan Eich (co-founder of Mozilla Firefox and creator of JavaScript) and Brian Bondy. <a href="http://Brave.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brave</a> now has more than 10 million monthly active users—including me.Why <a href="http://Brave.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brave</a>? Because Brave gives you unmatched speed, security, and privacy. Whereas other browsers suck up your data -- profiling and tracking you across the Web and using that information to manipulate your decisions -- Brave operates up to six times faster by blocking ads and website trackers, preserving your anonymity and protecting you from this surveillance economy. <a href="http://Brave.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brave</a> also includes options such as Private Window with Tor for those seeking advanced privacy and safety. Intuitive and easy to use, Brave allows you to import bookmarks from other browsers with one click, and all your favorite Chrome extensions are available with Brave. Listeners of The Tim Ferriss Show can easily upgrade their browser for free right now by going to <a href="http://Brave.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brave.com/Tim</a>.This episode is also brought to you by <a href="https://linkedin.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn Jobs</a>. Hiring can be hard, and it and be super expensive and painful if you get it wrong. Today, with more qualified candidates than ever — but also more noise than ever — employers need a hiring solution that helps them find the right people for their businesses. <a href="https://linkedin.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn Jobs</a> provides just that by screening candidates with the hard and soft skills you’re looking for so you can quickly find and hire the right person.LinkedIn can make sure your job post gets in front of people you want to hire — people with the skills, qualifications, and other insights that help LinkedIn paint a better picture of potential candidates. It’s no wonder great candidates are hired every eight seconds on LinkedIn. Find the right person meant for your business today with <a href="https://linkedin.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn Jobs</a>. You can pay what you want, and the first $50 is on LinkedIn. Just visit <a href="https://linkedin.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn.com/Tim</a> to get $50 off your first job post! Terms and conditions apply.***If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-tim-ferriss-show/id863897795?mt=2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts</a>/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.For show notes and past guests, please visit <a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/podcast</a>.Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (“5-Bullet Friday”) at <a href="https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-1/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/friday</a>.For transcripts of episodes, go to <a href="http://tim.blog/transcripts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/transcripts</a>.Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please fill out the form at <a href="http://tim.blog/sponsor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/sponsor</a>.Discover Tim’s books: <a href="http://tim.blog/books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/books</a>.Follow Tim:Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/tferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/tferriss</a> Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/timferriss/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instagram.com/timferriss</a>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">facebook.com/timferriss</a> YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/timferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">youtube.com/timferriss</a>Past guests on <a href="http://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> include <a href="https://tim.blog/2020/12/08/jerry-seinfeld/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jerry Seinfeld</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2020/06/26/hugh-jackman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hugh Jackman</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2020/04/16/jane-goodall/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Jane Goodall</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2018/11/27/lebron-james-mike-mancias/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LeBron James</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2020/05/20/kevin-hart/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kevin Hart</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2018/09/07/doris-kearns-goodwin-leadership/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Doris Kearns Goodwin</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2015/12/06/jamie-foxx/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jamie Foxx</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2020/10/19/matthew-mcconaughey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Matthew McConaughey</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2017/05/21/esther-perel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Esther Perel</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2020/05/08/elizabeth-gilbert/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elizabeth Gilbert</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2017/12/20/terry-crews-how-to-have-do-and-be-all-you-want/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Terry Crews</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2020/08/12/sia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sia</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2020/10/27/yuval-noah-harari/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yuval Noah Harari</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2016/06/21/malcolm-gladwell/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Malcolm Gladwell</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2020/05/27/secretary-madeleine-albright/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Madeleine Albright</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2017/03/30/cheryl-strayed/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cheryl Strayed</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2019/02/18/jim-collins/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jim Collins</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2020/11/11/mary-karr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Karr,</a> <a href="https://tim.blog/2014/10/21/brain-pickings/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Maria Popova</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2020/05/15/sam-harris-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sam Harris</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2021/01/21/michael-phelps-grant-hackett/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michael Phelps</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2020/01/16/bob-iger/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bob Iger</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2019/10/31/edward-norton-motherless-brooklyn/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Edward Norton</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2015/02/02/arnold-schwarzenegger/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Arnold Schwarzenegger</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2014/06/24/neil-strauss/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Neil Strauss</a>, <a href="https://tim.blog/2019/09/12/ken-burns/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ken Burns</a>, <a 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"One of the biggest challenges we face is staying kind with profound disagreement—and staying kind when a mechanism has been set up to make money and power out of hate." — Penn JillettePenn Jillette (@pennjillette) is a cultural phenomenon as a solo personality and as half of the world-famous, Emmy Award-winning magic duo and Las Vegas headliners Penn & Teller.Together since 1975, Penn & Teller's live show spent years on Broadway and is now the longest-running headliner show in Las Vegas where it plays nightly at The Rio All-Suite Hotel & Casino. The pair has been awarded Las Vegas Magicians of the Year an amazing eights times.As part of Penn & Teller he has appeared on hundreds of shows, from The Simpsons and Friends to Billions. He recently co-wrote an episode of the Emmy-winning Netflix series Black Mirror.He co-hosted the controversial Showtime series Penn & Teller: Bullshit! which was nominated for thirteen Emmy Awards, won him a Writers Guild award, and was the longest-running show in the history of the network. He currently co-hosts the CW Network hit competition series Penn & Teller: Fool Us! which was nominated for a 2017 Critics' Choice award.Penn's latest book, The New York Times Best Seller Presto! takes an insightful and very humorous look at his recent weight loss journey. His previous book, God No! Signs You Might Be An Atheist and Other Magic Tales, spent six weeks on The New York Times Best Sellers list.His weekly podcast, Penn's Sunday School, was the number one downloaded podcast on Apple Podcasts during its debut week, and was named a Best New Comedy Podcast by Apple Podcasts.On the big screen, Penn produced the critically lauded 2005 documentary The Aristocrats, which features over 100 of the biggest names in comedy telling their versions of the dirtiest joke in history. He produced Tim's Vermeer, which follows the journey of an eccentric inventor determined to solve one of the art world's oldest mysteries. The Sony Pictures Classics release was nominated for a BAFTA and was shortlisted for the 2014 Oscars. He has recently completed the documentary Gambler's Ballad profiling magic legend Johnny Thompson.Penn & Teller have their very own star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and triumphantly returned to Broadway recently with Penn & Teller On Broadway, which was the highest-grossing non-musical for the entirety of its run.Please enjoy!***If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.For show notes and past guests, please visit tim.blog/podcast.Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (“5-Bullet Friday”) at tim.blog/friday.For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts.Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please fill out the form at tim.blog/sponsor.Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books.Follow Tim:Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss Instagram: instagram.com/timferrissFacebook: facebook.com/timferriss YouTube: youtube.com/timferrissPast guests on The Tim Ferriss Show include Jerry Seinfeld, Hugh Jackman, Dr. Jane Goodall, LeBron James, Kevin Hart, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Jamie Foxx, Matthew McConaughey, Esther Perel, Elizabeth Gilbert, Terry Crews, Sia, Yuval Noah Harari, Malcolm Gladwell, Madeleine Albright, Cheryl Strayed, Jim Collins, Mary Karr, Maria Popova, Sam Harris, Michael Phelps, Bob Iger, Edward Norton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Neil Strauss, Ken Burns, Maria Sharapova, Marc Andreessen, Neil Gaiman, Neil de Grasse Tyson, Jocko Willink, Daniel Ek, Kelly Slater, Dr. Peter Attia, Seth Godin, Howard Marks, Dr. Brené Brown, Eric Schmidt, Michael Lewis, Joe Gebbia, Michael Pollan, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Vince Vaughn, Brian Koppelman, Ramit Sethi, Dax Shepard, Tony Robbins, Jim Dethmer, Dan Harris, Ray Dalio, Naval Ravikant, Vitalik Buterin, Elizabeth Lesser, Amanda Palmer, Katie Haun, Sir Richard Branson, Chuck Palahniuk, Arianna Huffington, Reid Hoffman, Bill Burr, Whitney Cummings, Rick Rubin, Dr. Vivek Murthy, Darren Aronofsky, and many more.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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