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#366: Neil Gaiman — The Interview I've Waited 20 Years To Do

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“The biggest problem we run into is going, ‘This is who I am, this is what I’m like, this is how I function’ while failing to notice that you don’t do that anymore.” — Neil GaimanNeil Gaiman (<a href="https://twitter.com/neilhimself" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@neilhimself</a>) is the bestselling author and creator of books, graphic novels, short stories, film and television for all ages, including <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0062459082/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Neverwhere</a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Coraline-Neil-Gaiman/dp/0380977788/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coraline</a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/The-Graveyard-Book-Full-Cast-Production/dp/B00LXHLS9Q/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Graveyard Book</a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0062255665/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Ocean at the End of the Lane</a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/View-Cheap-Seats-Selected-Nonfiction/dp/0062262270?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The View from the Cheap Seats</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sandman_(Vertigo)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Sandman series of graphic novels</a>. His fiction has received Newbery and Carnegie Medals, and Hugo, Nebula, World Fantasy, Bram Stoker, and Will Eisner Awards, among many other awards and honours.His novelistic retelling of Norse myths, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Norse-Mythology-Neil-Gaiman/dp/039360909X/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Norse Mythology</a>, has been a phenomenon, and an international bestseller, and won Gaiman his ninth Audie Award (for Best Narration by the Author).Recently Gaiman wrote all six episodes of, and has been the full-time showrunner, for <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Inside-Look-Good-Omens/dp/B07FMHTRFF?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the forthcoming BBC/Amazon Prime mini-series adaptation</a> of Good Omens, based on <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Good-Omens-Accurate-Prophecies-Nutter/dp/0060853964/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the beloved 1990 book</a> he co-wrote with Terry Pratchett.Many of Gaiman’s books and comics have been adapted for film and television including <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Stardust-Charlie-Cox/dp/B0010Z32OA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=Stardust&qid=1553715785&s=gateway&sr=8-1&linkCode=ll1&tag=offsitoftimfe-20&linkId=c332fca208f250d116ffd1fb1c0199c5&language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stardust</a> (starring Robert De Niro and Michelle Pfeiffer), <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Coraline-Dakota-Fanning/dp/B002BWCJOA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=Coraline&qid=1553715828&s=instant-video&sr=1-1&linkCode=ll1&tag=offsitoftimfe-20&linkId=7e8ce95bba35364ae3788a5f6ee62951&language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coraline</a> (an Academy Award nominee and the BAFTA winner for Best Animated Film), and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/How-Talk-Girls-At-Parties/dp/B07DFX47Z1/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=How+to+Talk+to+Girls+at+Parties&qid=1553715852&s=instant-video&sr=1-1&linkCode=ll1&tag=offsitoftimfe-20&linkId=4cb591fbf49af8cf111bd61fbd0bbbe1&language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How to Talk to Girls at Parties</a>, a movie based on Gaiman’s short story. The television series <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pilot/dp/B01AMXSQE6/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=Lucifer&qid=1553715882&s=instant-video&sr=1-1&linkCode=ll1&tag=offsitoftimfe-20&linkId=9514c96ba0261596e2a1055e4205b056&language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lucifer</a> is based on characters created by Gaiman in Sandman. His 2001 novel, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/American-Gods-Tenth-Anniversary-Novel/dp/0062059882/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Gods</a>, is a critically acclaimed, Emmy-nominated TV series, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/American-Gods/dp/B06XWLHDV4/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&tag=offsitoftimfe-20&linkId=0ee975cadbfaccada3e7bffdd693911a&language=en_US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">now entering its second season</a>.In 2017, Neil Gaiman became a Goodwill Ambassador for <a href="https://www.unhcr.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">UNHCR</a>, the UN Refugee Agency. Originally from England, he lives in the United States, where he is Professor in the Arts at Bard College.<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/03/28/neil-gaiman/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Click here for the show notes for this episode.</a>This podcast is brought to you by <a href="https://www.onepeloton.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Peloton</a>, which has become a staple of my daily routine. I picked up this bike after seeing the success of my friend Kevin Rose, and I’ve been enjoying it more than I ever imagined. Peloton is an indoor cycling bike that brings live studio classes right to your home. No worrying about fitting classes into your busy schedule or making it to a studio with a crazy commute.New classes are added every day, and this includes options led by elite NYC instructors in your own living room. 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Again, that’s <a href="https://www.onepeloton.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">onepeloton.com</a> and enter the code TIM.This episode of the Tim Ferriss Show is also brought to you by <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/hello-monday/id1453893304?mt=2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hello Monday</a>, a new podcast from LinkedIn’s Editorial Team filled with the kind of advice that stays with you — the kind you can actually use.Each week, host Jessi Hempel sits down with featured guests, such as Seth Meyers, host of Late Night with Seth Meyers, and Elizabeth Gilbert, bestselling author of Eat, Pray, Love, to uncover lessons you can apply to your career.For example, Elizabeth Gilbert talks about relieving creative pressure to get more done: As Liz was approaching her follow-up to Eat, Pray, Love, she tried to write for six million people and felt overwhelmed. Instead, she focused on writing for her 10 closest friends. She didn’t know how to please millions of strangers, but did know how to reach those 10 friends.<a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/hello-monday/id1453893304?mt=2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Find Elizabeth Gilbert’s episode and other episodes from Hello Monday on Apple Podcasts</a>, or wherever you listen to podcasts.***If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-tim-ferriss-show/id863897795?mt=2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts</a>/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. I also love reading the reviews!For show notes and past guests, please visit <a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/podcast</a>.Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (“5-Bullet Friday”) at <a href="https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-1/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/friday</a>.For transcripts of episodes, go to <a href="http://tim.blog/transcripts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/transcripts</a>.Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please fill out the form at <a href="http://tim.blog/sponsor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/sponsor</a>.Discover Tim’s books: <a href="http://tim.blog/books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/books</a>.Follow Tim:Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/tferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/tferriss</a> Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/timferriss/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instagram.com/timferriss</a>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">facebook.com/timferriss</a> YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/timferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">youtube.com/timferriss</a>Past guests on <a href="http://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> include <a href="https://tim.blog/2020/12/08/jerry-seinfeld/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jerry Seinfeld</a>, <a 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“The biggest problem we run into is going, ‘This is who I am, this is what I’m like, this is how I function’ while failing to notice that you don’t do that anymore.” — Neil GaimanNeil Gaiman (@neilhimself) is the bestselling author and creator of books, graphic novels, short stories, film and television for all ages, including Neverwhere, Coraline, The Graveyard Book, The Ocean at the End of the Lane, The View from the Cheap Seats and the Sandman series of graphic novels. His fiction has received Newbery and Carnegie Medals, and Hugo, Nebula, World Fantasy, Bram Stoker, and Will Eisner Awards, among many other awards and honours.His novelistic retelling of Norse myths, Norse Mythology, has been a phenomenon, and an international bestseller, and won Gaiman his ninth Audie Award (for Best Narration by the Author).Recently Gaiman wrote all six episodes of, and has been the full-time showrunner, for the forthcoming BBC/Amazon Prime mini-series adaptation of Good Omens, based on the beloved 1990 book he co-wrote with Terry Pratchett.Many of Gaiman’s books and comics have been adapted for film and television including Stardust (starring Robert De Niro and Michelle Pfeiffer), Coraline (an Academy Award nominee and the BAFTA winner for Best Animated Film), and How to Talk to Girls at Parties, a movie based on Gaiman’s short story. The television series Lucifer is based on characters created by Gaiman in Sandman. His 2001 novel, American Gods, is a critically acclaimed, Emmy-nominated TV series, now entering its second season.In 2017, Neil Gaiman became a Goodwill Ambassador for UNHCR, the UN Refugee Agency. Originally from England, he lives in the United States, where he is Professor in the Arts at Bard College.Click here for the show notes for this episode.***If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. I also love reading the reviews!For show notes and past guests, please visit tim.blog/podcast.Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (“5-Bullet Friday”) at tim.blog/friday.For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts.Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please fill out the form at tim.blog/sponsor.Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books.Follow Tim:Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss Instagram: instagram.com/timferrissFacebook: facebook.com/timferriss YouTube: youtube.com/timferrissPast guests on The Tim Ferriss Show include Jerry Seinfeld, Hugh Jackman, Dr. Jane Goodall, LeBron James, Kevin Hart, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Jamie Foxx, Matthew McConaughey, Esther Perel, Elizabeth Gilbert, Terry Crews, Sia, Yuval Noah Harari, Malcolm Gladwell, Madeleine Albright, Cheryl Strayed, Jim Collins, Mary Karr, Maria Popova, Sam Harris, Michael Phelps, Bob Iger, Edward Norton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Neil Strauss, Ken Burns, Maria Sharapova, Marc Andreessen, Neil Gaiman, Neil de Grasse Tyson, Jocko Willink, Daniel Ek, Kelly Slater, Dr. Peter Attia, Seth Godin, Howard Marks, Dr. Brené Brown, Eric Schmidt, Michael Lewis, Joe Gebbia, Michael Pollan, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Vince Vaughn, Brian Koppelman, Ramit Sethi, Dax Shepard, Tony Robbins, Jim Dethmer, Dan Harris, Ray Dalio, Naval Ravikant, Vitalik Buterin, Elizabeth Lesser, Amanda Palmer, Katie Haun, Sir Richard Branson, Chuck Palahniuk, Arianna Huffington, Reid Hoffman, Bill Burr, Whitney Cummings, Rick Rubin, Dr. Vivek Murthy, Darren Aronofsky, and many more.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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