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#347: Stan Grof, Lessons from ~4,500 LSD Sessions and Beyond

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Tim Ferriss is a self-experimenter and bestselling author, best known for The 4-Hour Workweek, which has been translated into 40+ languages. Newsweek calls him "the world's best human guinea pig," and The New York Times calls him "a cross between Jack Welch and a Buddhist monk." In this show, he deconstructs world-class performers from eclectic areas (investing, chess, pro sports, etc.), digging deep to find the tools, tactics, and tricks that listeners can use.

"I realized people were not having LSD experiences; they were having experiences of themselves. But they were coming from depths that psychoanalysis didn't know anything about." — Stanislav GrofStanislav Grof, M.D., (<a href="http://stanislavgrof.com/" target="_blank">stanislavgrof.com</a>) is a psychiatrist with more than 60 years of experience in research of "holotropic" states of consciousness, a large and important subgroup of non-ordinary states that have healing, transformative, and evolutionary potential.Previously, he was Principal Investigator in a psychedelic research program at the Psychiatric Research Institute in Prague, Czechoslovakia, Chief of Psychiatric Research at the Maryland Psychiatric Research Center, Assistant Professor of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, MD, and Scholar-in-Residence at the Esalen Institute in Big Sur, CA.Currently, Stan is Professor of Psychology at the <a href="https://www.ciis.edu/" target="_blank">California Institute of Integral Studies</a> (CIIS) in San Francisco, CA, and conducts professional training programs in holotropic breathwork and transpersonal psychology, and gives lectures and seminars worldwide. He is one of the founders and chief theoreticians of transpersonal psychology and the founding president of the <a href="http://www.transpersonalassociation.com/" target="_blank">International Transpersonal Association</a> (ITA).His publications include more than 150 articles in professional journals and books like <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Psychology-Future-Consciousness-Transpersonal-Humanistic/dp/0791446220/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1542321206&sr=8-1&keywords=Psychology+of+the+Future&linkCode=ll1&tag=offsitoftimfe-20&linkId=6614cd89bfdd0ea051413a9aa0964e04&language=en_US" target="_blank">Psychology of the Future</a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Cosmic-Game-Explorations-Frontiers-Consciousness/dp/0791438767/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1542321299&sr=8-1&keywords=The+Cosmic+Game&linkCode=ll1&tag=offsitoftimfe-20&linkId=47146a9f1181483f3e5a3b9ecee3028d&language=en_US" target="_blank">The Cosmic Game</a>, and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Holotropic-Breathwork-Self-Exploration-Transpersonal-Humanistic/dp/1438433948/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=1542321345&linkCode=ll1&tag=offsitoftimfe-20&linkId=a3fc2e954d870144cff563602b837568&language=en_US" target="_blank">Holotropic Breathwork</a>, among many <a href="https://www.amazon.com/kindle-dbs/entity/author/B000APUAY6/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&node=283155&offset=0&pageSize=12&sort=author-pages-popularity-rank&page=1&linkCode=ll2&tag=offsitoftimfe-20&linkId=2d12c1d7c3e80b7cf8d553c0fb5b6a31&language=en_US" target="_blank">others</a>.In this wide-ranging interview, we cover many topics, including:<ul><li>Some of his main takeaways after supervising or guiding ~4,500 LSD sessions</li><li>The place and role of "wounded healers"</li><li>Limitations and uses of traditional psychoanalysis and talk therapy</li><li>Holotropic breathwork and some similarities to MDMA</li><li>Stories of odd synchronicities and the seemingly impossible</li><li>Stan's strangest personal experiences on psychedelics</li><li>What Stan believes humanity most needs to overcome: division and destruction</li></ul>I hope you'll enjoy this in-depth conversation with Stan Grof!This episode is brought to you by <a href="https://www.onepeloton.com/" target="_blank">Peloton</a>, which has become a staple of my daily routine. I picked up this bike after seeing the success of my friend Kevin Rose, and I’ve been enjoying it more than I ever imagined. Peloton is an indoor cycling bike that brings live studio classes right to your home. No worrying about fitting classes into your busy schedule or making it to a studio with a crazy commute.New classes are added every day, and this includes options led by elite NYC instructors in your own living room. You can even live stream studio classes taught by the world’s best instructors, or find your favorite class on demand.<a href="https://www.onepeloton.com/" target="_blank">Peloton</a> is offering listeners to this show a special offer. Visit <a href="https://www.onepeloton.com/" target="_blank">onepeloton.com</a> and enter the code TIM at checkout to receive $100 off accessories with your Peloton bike purchase. This is a great way to get in your workouts or an incredible gift. 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"I realized people were not having LSD experiences; they were having experiences of themselves. But they were coming from depths that psychoanalysis didn't know anything about." — Stanislav GrofStanislav Grof, M.D., (stanislavgrof.com) is a psychiatrist with more than 60 years of experience in research of "holotropic" states of consciousness, a large and important subgroup of non-ordinary states that have healing, transformative, and evolutionary potential.Previously, he was Principal Investigator in a psychedelic research program at the Psychiatric Research Institute in Prague, Czechoslovakia, Chief of Psychiatric Research at the Maryland Psychiatric Research Center, Assistant Professor of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, MD, and Scholar-in-Residence at the Esalen Institute in Big Sur, CA.Currently, Stan is Professor of Psychology at the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) in San Francisco, CA, and conducts professional training programs in holotropic breathwork and transpersonal psychology, and gives lectures and seminars worldwide. He is one of the founders and chief theoreticians of transpersonal psychology and the founding president of the International Transpersonal Association (ITA).His publications include more than 150 articles in professional journals and books like Psychology of the Future, The Cosmic Game, and Holotropic Breathwork, among many others.In this wide-ranging interview, we cover many topics, including:Some of his main takeaways after supervising or guiding ~4,500 LSD sessionsThe place and role of "wounded healers"Limitations and uses of traditional psychoanalysis and talk therapyHolotropic breathwork and some similarities to MDMAStories of odd synchronicities and the seemingly impossibleStan's strangest personal experiences on psychedelicsWhat Stan believes humanity most needs to overcome: division and destructionI hope you'll enjoy this in-depth conversation with Stan Grof!This episode is brought to you by Peloton, which has become a staple of my daily routine. I picked up this bike after seeing the success of my friend Kevin Rose, and I’ve been enjoying it more than I ever imagined. Peloton is an indoor cycling bike that brings live studio classes right to your home. No worrying about fitting classes into your busy schedule or making it to a studio with a crazy commute.New classes are added every day, and this includes options led by elite NYC instructors in your own living room. You can even live stream studio classes taught by the world’s best instructors, or find your favorite class on demand.Peloton is offering listeners to this show a special offer. Visit onepeloton.com and enter the code TIM at checkout to receive $100 off accessories with your Peloton bike purchase. This is a great way to get in your workouts or an incredible gift. Again, that’s onepeloton.com and enter the code TIM.This episode is also brought to you by LegalZoom. I’ve used this service for many of my businesses, as have quite a few of the icons on this podcast such as Automattic CEO Matt Mullenweg of WordPress fame.LegalZoom is a reliable resource that more than a million people have already trusted for everything from setting up wills, proper trademark searches, forming LLCs, setting up non-profits, or finding simple cease-and-desist letter templates.LegalZoom is not a law firm, but it does have a network of independent attorneys available in most states who can give you advice on the best way to get started, provide contract reviews, and otherwise help you run your business with complete transparency and up-front pricing. Check out LegalZoom.com and enter promo code TIM at checkout today for special savings and see how the fine folks there can make life easier for you and your business.***If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. I also love reading the reviews!For show notes and past guests, please visit tim.blog/podcast.Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (“5-Bullet Friday”) at tim.blog/friday.For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts.Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please fill out the form at tim.blog/sponsor.Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books.Follow Tim:Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss Instagram: instagram.com/timferrissFacebook: facebook.com/timferriss YouTube: youtube.com/timferrissSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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