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Rick Doblin: Net Zero Trauma by 2070 | MDM...

Rick Doblin: Net Zero Trauma by 2070 | MDMA & Psychedelic Therapy

Can MDMA-assisted therapy solve the world’s most deep-seated conflicts? In this episode of Talks 21, we sit down with Rick Doblin, the visionary founder of MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies). Rick has spent over 40 years working tirelessly to transitionpsychedelics from counterculture to FDA-approved medicine.
We dive deep into Rick’s personal journey – from his first encounters with LSD and the influence of Stan Grof, to his strategic battle against the DEA and the founding of MAPS in 1986. Rick candidly shares the mistakes made during the commercialisation of MDMA and his radical vision for "Net Zero Trauma" by 2070.
Whether you are interested in the science of healing, the politics of drug reform, or the potential for psychedelics to foster peace in regions like Israel and Palestine, this conversation offers a profound look at the courage required to change the world.
In this episode, we discuss:
🔹 The impact of the Holocaust and the Vietnam War on Rick’s mission.
🔹 The strategic shift from individual therapy to cultural and policy change.
🔹 The current status of the FDA approval for MDMA in the United States.
🔹 How to build bridges with those who think differently to find common ground.
🔹 Rick’s philosophy: focus on effort over outcome to build a lasting legacy.
🔗 You can support MAPS by sharing resources, joining upcoming events, or participating in their educational programs. Consider engaging in community conversations, volunteering, or supporting ongoing research to help shape the future of psychedelic medicine : www.maps.org
Chapters
0:00:00 Theme song
0:00:13 Introduction
00:01:32 Rick’s Path to Psychedelics
00:18:22 Shifting Focus: From Individual Therapy to Public Policy
00:25:02 The Biggest Mistake in Building MAPS
00:31:46 The Future of MDMA Approval in the United States
00:34:58 A Vision for 2070: Achieving Net Zero Trauma
00:45:21 Healing Global Conflicts with MDMA
00:51:13 How to Overcome Fear and Spread Courage
01:03:45 Rick Doblin’s Legacy and Life’s Work
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Popis podcastu
Každých 21 dní zve Karel Janeček k upřímné a otevřené konverzaci výjimečné osobnosti z různých oblastí – vědy, filozofie, vzdělávání, zdraví, technologií, spirituality a systémových změn. Talks 21 je prostorem pro lidskost, hloubku a inspiraci. Hledáme nové perspektivy, odvahu vidět věci jinak a přístupy, které pomáhají žít smysluplný, opravdový a svobodný život – pro nás i pro naše děti.
Every 21 days, Karel Janeček hosts open and honest conversations with outstanding guests from science, philosophy, education, health, technology, spirituality, and systemic transformation. Talks 21 is a space for depth, authenticity, and inspiration. We seek fresh perspectives, the courage to see things differently, and ideas that help us live lives that are authentic, meaningful, and free – for ourselves and for our children.