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Scott and Wes talk about the benefits of owning your own PaaS (platform as a service), the main alternatives in the space, and ways to make passion projects more financially viable. <h3 class="code-line" data-line-start="2" data-line-end="3"><a id= "Show_Notes_2"></a>Show Notes</h3> <ul> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="4" data-line-end="5"> <a href="#t=00:00">00:00</a> Welcome to Syntax!</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="5" data-line-end="6"> <a href="#t=01:12">01:12</a> Brought to you by <a href="http://Sentry.io">Sentry.io</a>.</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="6" data-line-end="7"> <a href="#t=01:56">01:56</a> What is a PaaS?</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="7" data-line-end="8"> <a href="https://nginx.org/en/">NGINX</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="8" data-line-end="9"> <a href="#t=04:21">04:21</a> Challenges with payment structures.</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="9" data-line-end="10"> <a href="https://render.com/">Render</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="10" data-line-end="11"> <a href="#t=07:02">07:02</a> What is Kubernetes?</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="11" data-line-end="12"> <a href= "https://kubernetes.io/docs/tutorials/kubernetes-basics/">Kubernetes</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="12" data-line-end="13"> <a href="#t=07:51">07:51</a> What are the differences between Kubernetes and Docker?</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="13" data-line-end="14"> <a href="https://docs.docker.com/engine/swarm/">Docker Swarm</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="14" data-line-end="15"> <a href="#t=09:15">09:15</a> Reasons to own your own PaaS.</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="15" data-line-end="16"> <a href="https://www.netlify.com/">Nelify</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="16" data-line-end="17"> <a href="https://www.bluehost.com/">Bluehost</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="17" data-line-end="18"> <a href="#t=15:05">15:05</a> “Pokémon or Web Service”</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="18" data-line-end="19"> <a href= "https://www.giantbomb.com/profile/wakka/lists/the-150-original-pokemon/59579/"> Original 150 Pokémon Characters</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="19" data-line-end="20"> <a href="#t=16:49">16:49</a> The players and their pros and cons.</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="20" data-line-end="41"> <a href="#t=18:51">18:51</a> Where can you host these services? <ul> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="21" data-line-end="22"> <a href="#t=19:47">19:47</a> Kubero.</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="22" data-line-end="23"> <a href="https://github.com/kubero-dev/kubero">Kubero</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="23" data-line-end="24"> <a href="#t=21:50">21:50</a> Coolify.</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="24" data-line-end="25"> <a href="https://coolify.io/">Coolify</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="25" data-line-end="26"> <a href="https://coolify.io/pricing">Coolify pricing</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="26" data-line-end="27"> <a href="#t=28:15">28:15</a> Caprover.</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="27" data-line-end="28"> <a href="https://caprover.com/">Caprover</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="28" data-line-end="29"> <a href="#t=29:03">29:03</a> Dokku.</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="29" data-line-end="30"> <a href="https://dokku.com/">Dokku</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="30" data-line-end="31"> <a href="https://shokku.dev/">Shokku</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="31" data-line-end="32"> <a href="https://github.com/ledokku/ledokku">Ledokku</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="32" data-line-end="33"> <a href="https://github.com/cywio/atlas">Atlas</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="33" data-line-end="34"> <a href= "https://nixpacks.com/docs/getting-started">Nixpacks</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="34" data-line-end="35"> <a href="#t=32:53">32:53</a> Piku.</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="35" data-line-end="36"> <a href="https://github.com/piku/piku">Piku</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="36" data-line-end="37"> <a href="#t=33:24">33:24</a> Cuber.</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="37" data-line-end="38"> <a href="https://cuber.cloud/">Cuber</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="38" data-line-end="39"> <a href="#t=34:13">34:13</a> Acorn.</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="39" data-line-end="40"> <a href="https://github.com/acorn-io/acorn">Acorn</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="40" data-line-end="41"> <a href="https://twitter.com/heyandras">Coolify creator, Andras Bacsai on X</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="41" data-line-end="42"> <a href="#t=36:44">36:44</a> The challenges of hosting your own PaaS.</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="42" data-line-end="43"> <a href="#t=38:46">38:46</a> Jekyll ran on a PC under a desk.</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="43" data-line-end="44"> <a href="https://github.com/jekyll/jekyll">Jekyll</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="44" data-line-end="45"> <a href="#t=39:36">39:36</a> Sometimes less is, in fact, more.</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="45" data-line-end="46"> <a href="#t=40:09">40:09</a> Final thoughts.</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="46" data-line-end="47"> <a href="#t=45:03">45:03</a> Scott got Bun to work on Coolify.</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="47" data-line-end="49"> <a href="#t=51:01">51:01</a> Sick Picks + Shameless Plugs.</li> </ul> <h3 class="code-line" data-line-start="49" data-line-end="50"> <a id="Sick_Picks_49"></a>Sick Picks</h3> <ul> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="51" data-line-end="52"> Wes: <a href="https://amzn.to/3OA1Tm3">GripStic Chip Bag Sealer Amazon</a>, <a href= "https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002668950857.html">GripStic Chip Bag Sealer Aliexpress</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="52" data-line-end="54"> Scott: <a href="https://amzn.to/3SOHIDu">Caseta Diva Smart Dimmer</a></li> </ul> <h3 class="code-line" data-line-start="54" data-line-end="55"> <a id="Shameless_Plugs_54"></a>Shameless Plugs</h3> <ul> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="56" data-line-end="58"> Wes: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@syntaxfm">Syntax YouTube</a></li> </ul> <h3 class="code-line" data-line-start="58" data-line-end="59"> <a id="Hit_us_up_on_Socials_58"></a>Hit us up on Socials!</h3> Syntax: <a href="https://twitter.com/syntaxfm">X</a> <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/syntax_fm/">Instagram</a> <a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@syntaxfm">Tiktok</a> <a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/company/96077407/admin/feed/posts/">LinkedIn</a> <a href="https://www.threads.net/@syntax_fm">Threads</a> Wes: <a href="https://twitter.com/wesbos">X</a> <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/wesbos/">Instagram</a> <a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@wesbos">Tiktok</a> <a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesbos/">LinkedIn</a> <a href= "https://www.threads.net/@wesbos">Threads</a> Scott:<a href="https://twitter.com/stolinski">X</a> <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/stolinski/">Instagram</a> <a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@stolinski">Tiktok</a> <a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/stolinski/">LinkedIn</a> <a href= "https://www.threads.net/@stolinski">Threads</a> Randy: <a href="https://twitter.com/randyrektor">X</a> <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/randyrektor/">Instagram</a> <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/@randyrektor">YouTube</a> <a href= "https://www.threads.net/@randyrektor">Threads</a>

Scott and Wes talk about the benefits of owning your own PaaS (platform as a service), the main alternatives in the space, and ways to make passion projects more financially viable.
 Show Notes  00:00 Welcome to Syntax!
 01:12 Brought to you by Sentry.io.
 01:56 What is a PaaS?
 NGINX

 04:21 Challenges with payment structures.
 Render

 07:02 What is Kubernetes?
 Kubernetes

 07:51 What are the differences between Kubernetes and Docker?
 Docker Swarm

 09:15 Reasons to own your own PaaS.
 Nelify

 Bluehost

 15:05 “Pokémon or Web Service”
  Original 150 Pokémon Characters

 16:49 The players and their pros and cons.
 18:51 Where can you host these services?  19:47 Kubero.
 Kubero

 21:50 Coolify.
 Coolify

 Coolify pricing

 28:15 Caprover.
 Caprover

 29:03 Dokku.
 Dokku

 Shokku

 Ledokku

 Atlas

 Nixpacks

 32:53 Piku.
 Piku

 33:24 Cuber.
 Cuber

 34:13 Acorn.
 Acorn

 Coolify creator, Andras Bacsai on X

 36:44 The challenges of hosting your own PaaS.
 38:46 Jekyll ran on a PC under a desk.
 Jekyll

 39:36 Sometimes less is, in fact, more.
 40:09 Final thoughts.
 45:03 Scott got Bun to work on Coolify.
 51:01 Sick Picks + Shameless Plugs.
  Sick Picks  Wes: GripStic Chip Bag Sealer Amazon, GripStic Chip Bag Sealer Aliexpress

 Scott: Caseta Diva Smart Dimmer

  Shameless Plugs  Wes: Syntax YouTube

  Hit us up on Socials! Syntax: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads
 Wes: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads
 Scott:X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads
 Randy: X Instagram YouTube Threads

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