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#493 – Jeff Kaplan: World of Warcraft, Overwatch, Blizzard, and Future of Gaming

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Jeff Kaplan is a legendary Blizzard game designer of World of Warcraft and Overwatch, now preparing to launch a new game, The Legend of California, from his new studio Kintsugiyama – available to wishlist on Steam today, with alpha later in March. 
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The Legend of California (Steam Page): <a href="https://store.steampowered.com/app/2550530/The_Legend_of_California">https://store.steampowered.com/app/2550530/The_Legend_of_California</a> 
Jeff’s Game Studio: <a href="https://www.kintsugiyama.com/">https://www.kintsugiyama.com/</a>
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OUTLINE: 
(00:00) – Introduction 
(02:24) – Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections 
(10:47) – Early games: Pac-Man, Zork, Doom, Quake 
(25:12) – Writing career – 170 rejection letters 
(40:45) – EverQuest obsession 
(53:43) – Getting hired at Blizzard 
(1:09:11) – Lowest point in Jeff’s life 
(1:15:16) – One of Us 
(1:19:33) – Early Blizzard culture 
(1:39:15) – Building World of Warcraft 
(1:56:59) – How WoW changed video games 
(2:14:21) – Single-player vs Multi-player 
(2:35:15) – How Blizzard made great video games 
(3:01:04) – Online toxicity 
(3:08:38) – Why Titan failed 
(3:25:48) – Overwatch in six weeks 
(3:52:46) – Best Overwatch heroes 
(4:01:16) – The challenge of matchmaking 
(4:04:40) – Rust 
(4:15:01) – Why Jeff left Blizzard 
(4:37:14) – Diablo IV 
(4:38:42) – Getting back to making video games 
(4:47:38) – The Legend of California 
(5:01:23) – Greatest video game of all time 
(5:09:30) – AI and future of video games
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