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#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

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Conversations about science, technology, history, philosophy and the nature of intelligence, consciousness, love, and power. Lex is an AI researcher at MIT and beyond.

Annie Jacobsen is an investigative journalist and author of "Nuclear War: A Scenario" and many other books on war, weapons, government secrecy, and national security. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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EPISODE LINKS:
Nuclear War: A Scenario (book): https://amzn.to/3THZHfr
Annie's Twitter: https://twitter.com/anniejacobsen
Annie's Website: https://anniejacobsen.com/
Annie's Books: https://amzn.to/3TGWyMJ
Annie's Books (audio): https://adbl.co/49ZnI7c

PODCAST INFO:
Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast
Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr
Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8
RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/
YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman
YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips

SUPPORT & CONNECT:
- Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast
- Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman
- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman
- Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman

OUTLINE:
Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
(00:00) - Introduction
(07:37) - Nuclear war
(12:21) - Launch procedure
(18:00) - Deterrence
(21:34) - Tactical nukes
(30:59) - Nuclear submarines
(33:59) - Nuclear missiles
(41:10) - Nuclear football
(50:17) - Missile interceptor system
(54:34) - North Korea
(1:01:10) - Nuclear war scenarios
(1:10:02) - Warmongers
(1:14:31) - President's cognitive ability
(1:20:43) - Refusing orders
(1:28:41) - Russia and Putin
(1:33:48) - Cyberattack
(1:35:09) - Ground zero of nuclear war
(1:39:48) - Surviving nuclear war
(1:44:06) - Nuclear winter
(1:54:29) - Alien civilizations
(2:00:04) - Extrasensory perception
(2:13:50) - Area 51
(2:17:48) - UFOs and aliens
(2:28:15) - Roswell incident
(2:34:55) - CIA assassinations
(2:53:47) - Navalny
(2:56:12) - KGB
(3:02:48) - Hitler and the atomic bomb
(3:06:52) - War and human nature
(3:10:17) - Hope

Annie Jacobsen is an investigative journalist and author of "Nuclear War: A Scenario" and many other books on war, weapons, government secrecy, and national security. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
- HiddenLayer: https://hiddenlayer.com/lex
- BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off
- Policygenius: https://policygenius.com/lex
- NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour

Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/annie-jacobsen-transcript

EPISODE LINKS:
Nuclear War: A Scenario (book): https://amzn.to/3THZHfr
Annie's Twitter: https://twitter.com/anniejacobsen
Annie's Website: https://anniejacobsen.com/
Annie's Books: https://amzn.to/3TGWyMJ
Annie's Books (audio): https://adbl.co/49ZnI7c

PODCAST INFO:
Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast
Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr
Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8
RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/
YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman
YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips

SUPPORT & CONNECT:
- Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast
- Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman
- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman
- Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman

OUTLINE:
Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
(00:00) - Introduction
(07:37) - Nuclear war
(12:21) - Launch procedure
(18:00) - Deterrence
(21:34) - Tactical nukes
(30:59) - Nuclear submarines
(33:59) - Nuclear missiles
(41:10) - Nuclear football
(50:17) - Missile interceptor system
(54:34) - North Korea
(1:01:10) - Nuclear war scenarios
(1:10:02) - Warmongers
(1:14:31) - President's cognitive ability
(1:20:43) - Refusing orders
(1:28:41) - Russia and Putin
(1:33:48) - Cyberattack
(1:35:09) - Ground zero of nuclear war
(1:39:48) - Surviving nuclear war
(1:44:06) - Nuclear winter
(1:54:29) - Alien civilizations
(2:00:04) - Extrasensory perception
(2:13:50) - Area 51
(2:17:48) - UFOs and aliens
(2:28:15) - Roswell incident
(2:34:55) - CIA assassinations
(2:53:47) - Navalny
(2:56:12) - KGB
(3:02:48) - Hitler and the atomic bomb
(3:06:52) - War and human nature
(3:10:17) - Hope

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