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#419 – Sam Altman: OpenAI, GPT-5, Sora, Board Saga, Elon Musk, Ilya, Power & AGI

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Sam Altman is the CEO of OpenAI, the company behind GPT-4, ChatGPT, Sora, and many other state-of-the-art AI technologies. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/sam-altman-2-transcript

EPISODE LINKS:
Sam's X: https://x.com/sama
Sam's Blog: https://blog.samaltman.com/
OpenAI's X: https://x.com/OpenAI
OpenAI's Website: https://openai.com
ChatGPT Website: https://chat.openai.com/
Sora Website: https://openai.com/sora
GPT-4 Website: https://openai.com/research/gpt-4

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OUTLINE:
Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
(00:00) - Introduction
(07:51) - OpenAI board saga
(25:17) - Ilya Sutskever
(31:26) - Elon Musk lawsuit
(41:18) - Sora
(51:09) - GPT-4
(1:02:18) - Memory & privacy
(1:09:22) - Q*
(1:12:58) - GPT-5
(1:16:13) - $7 trillion of compute
(1:24:22) - Google and Gemini
(1:35:26) - Leap to GPT-5
(1:39:10) - AGI
(1:57:44) - Aliens

Sam Altman is the CEO of OpenAI, the company behind GPT-4, ChatGPT, Sora, and many other state-of-the-art AI technologies. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: 
– Cloaked: <a href="https://cloaked.com/lex">https://cloaked.com/lex</a> and use code LexPod to get 25% off 
– Shopify: <a href="https://shopify.com/lex">https://shopify.com/lex</a> to get $1 per month trial 
– BetterHelp: <a href="https://betterhelp.com/lex">https://betterhelp.com/lex</a> to get 10% off 
– ExpressVPN: <a href="https://expressvpn.com/lexpod">https://expressvpn.com/lexpod</a> to get 3 months free
Transcript: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/sam-altman-2-transcript">https://lexfridman.com/sam-altman-2-transcript</a>
EPISODE LINKS: 
Sam’s X: <a href="https://x.com/sama">https://x.com/sama</a> 
Sam’s Blog: <a href="https://blog.samaltman.com/">https://blog.samaltman.com/</a> 
OpenAI’s X: <a href="https://x.com/OpenAI">https://x.com/OpenAI</a> 
OpenAI’s Website: <a href="https://openai.com">https://openai.com</a> 
ChatGPT Website: <a href="https://chat.openai.com/">https://chat.openai.com/</a> 
Sora Website: <a href="https://openai.com/sora">https://openai.com/sora</a> 
GPT-4 Website: <a href="https://openai.com/research/gpt-4">https://openai.com/research/gpt-4</a>
PODCAST INFO: 
Podcast website: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast">https://lexfridman.com/podcast</a> 
Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://apple.co/2lwqZIr">https://apple.co/2lwqZIr</a> 
Spotify: <a href="https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8">https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8</a> 
RSS: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/">https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/</a> 
YouTube Full Episodes: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexfridman">https://youtube.com/lexfridman</a> 
YouTube Clips: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexclips">https://youtube.com/lexclips</a>
SUPPORT & CONNECT: 
– Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast 
– Support on Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman">https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/lexfridman">https://twitter.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman">https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman</a> 
– LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman">https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman</a> 
– Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman">https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Medium: <a href="https://medium.com/@lexfridman">https://medium.com/@lexfridman</a>
OUTLINE: 
Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 
(00:00) – Introduction 
(07:51) – OpenAI board saga 
(25:17) – Ilya Sutskever 
(31:26) – Elon Musk lawsuit 
(41:18) – Sora 
(51:09) – GPT-4 
(1:02:18) – Memory & privacy 
(1:09:22) – Q* 
(1:12:58) – GPT-5 
(1:16:13) – $7 trillion of compute 
(1:24:22) – Google and Gemini 
(1:35:26) – Leap to GPT-5 
(1:39:10) – AGI 
(1:57:44) – Aliens

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