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#371 – Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

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Max Tegmark is a physicist and AI researcher at MIT, co-founder of the Future of Life Institute, and author of Life 3.0: Being Human in the Age of Artificial Intelligence. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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EPISODE LINKS:
Max's Twitter: https://twitter.com/tegmark
Max's Website: https://space.mit.edu/home/tegmark
Pause Giant AI Experiments (open letter): https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experiments
Future of Life Institute: https://futureoflife.org
Books and resources mentioned:
1. Life 3.0 (book): https://amzn.to/3UB9rXB
2. Meditations on Moloch (essay): https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch
3. Nuclear winter paper: https://nature.com/articles/s43016-022-00573-0

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OUTLINE:
Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
(00:00) - Introduction
(07:34) - Intelligent alien civilizations
(19:58) - Life 3.0 and superintelligent AI
(31:25) - Open letter to pause Giant AI Experiments
(56:32) - Maintaining control
(1:25:22) - Regulation
(1:36:12) - Job automation
(1:45:27) - Elon Musk
(2:07:09) - Open source
(2:13:39) - How AI may kill all humans
(2:24:10) - Consciousness
(2:33:32) - Nuclear winter
(2:44:00) - Questions for AGI

Max Tegmark is a physicist and AI researcher at MIT, co-founder of the Future of Life Institute, and author of Life 3.0: Being Human in the Age of Artificial Intelligence. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: 
– Notion: <a href="https://notion.com">https://notion.com</a> 
– InsideTracker: <a href="https://insidetracker.com/lex">https://insidetracker.com/lex</a> to get 20% off 
– Indeed: <a href="https://indeed.com/lex">https://indeed.com/lex</a> to get $75 credit
EPISODE LINKS: 
Max’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/tegmark">https://twitter.com/tegmark</a> 
Max’s Website: <a href="https://space.mit.edu/home/tegmark">https://space.mit.edu/home/tegmark</a> 
Pause Giant AI Experiments (open letter): <a href="https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experiments">https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experiments</a> 
Future of Life Institute: <a href="https://futureoflife.org">https://futureoflife.org</a> 
Books and resources mentioned: 
1. Life 3.0 (book): <a href="https://amzn.to/3UB9rXB">https://amzn.to/3UB9rXB</a> 
2. Meditations on Moloch (essay): <a href="https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch">https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch</a> 
3. Nuclear winter paper: <a href="https://nature.com/articles/s43016-022-00573-0">https://nature.com/articles/s43016-022-00573-0</a>
PODCAST INFO: 
Podcast website: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast">https://lexfridman.com/podcast</a> 
Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://apple.co/2lwqZIr">https://apple.co/2lwqZIr</a> 
Spotify: <a href="https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8">https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8</a> 
RSS: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/">https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/</a> 
YouTube Full Episodes: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexfridman">https://youtube.com/lexfridman</a> 
YouTube Clips: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexclips">https://youtube.com/lexclips</a>
SUPPORT & CONNECT: 
– Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast 
– Support on Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman">https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/lexfridman">https://twitter.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman">https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman</a> 
– LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman">https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman</a> 
– Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman">https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Medium: <a href="https://medium.com/@lexfridman">https://medium.com/@lexfridman</a>
OUTLINE: 
Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 
(00:00) – Introduction 
(07:34) – Intelligent alien civilizations 
(19:58) – Life 3.0 and superintelligent AI 
(31:25) – Open letter to pause Giant AI Experiments 
(56:32) – Maintaining control 
(1:25:22) – Regulation 
(1:36:12) – Job automation 
(1:45:27) – Elon Musk 
(2:07:09) – Open source 
(2:13:39) – How AI may kill all humans 
(2:24:10) – Consciousness 
(2:33:32) – Nuclear winter 
(2:44:00) – Questions for AGI

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