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#256 – Nationalism Debate: Yaron Brook and Yoram Hazony

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Yaron Brook is an objectivist. Yoram Hazony is a national conservative. This is a conversation and debate about national conservatism vs individualism. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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EPISODE LINKS:
Yaron's Twitter: https://twitter.com/yaronbrook
Yaron's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ybrook
Yoram's Twitter: https://twitter.com/yhazony
Yoram's Website: https://www.yoramhazony.org/
Yaron Brook's Books:
In Pursuit of Wealth: https://amzn.to/3qmXuGo
Equal Is Unfair: https://amzn.to/3FopKOV
Yoram Hazony's Books:
Conservatism: https://amzn.to/3sv0Nhe
The Virtue of Nationalism: https://amzn.to/3mtxqs6

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SUPPORT & CONNECT:
- Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast
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OUTLINE:
Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
(00:00) - Introduction
(09:11) - Conservatism
(15:07) - Importance of history
(27:09) - Rationalism vs empiricism
(32:39) - Communism
(40:43) - Otto von Bismarck
(45:04) - Edmund Burke and the French Revolution
(49:52) - USA's founding fathers
(1:02:47) - Founding documents
(1:24:36) - Cohesion and Individualism
(1:45:29) - Love and relationships
(1:53:41) - Individual freedom
(2:08:08) - Having children
(2:21:54) - Reason vs emotions
(2:28:44) - Nationalism
(2:40:56) - Finding love
(2:52:44) - Hope for the future
(2:58:08) - Meaning of life

Yaron Brook is an objectivist. Yoram Hazony is a national conservative. This is a conversation and debate about national conservatism vs individualism. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: 
– Noom 
– InsideTracker: <a href="https://insidetracker.com/lex">https://insidetracker.com/lex</a> and use code Lex25 to get 25% off 
– SimpliSafe: <a href="https://simplisafe.com/lex">https://simplisafe.com/lex</a> and use code LEX to get a free security camera 
– ExpressVPN: <a href="https://expressvpn.com/lexpod">https://expressvpn.com/lexpod</a> and use code LexPod to get 3 months free 
– Blinkist: <a href="https://blinkist.com/lex">https://blinkist.com/lex</a> and use code LEX to get 25% off premium
EPISODE LINKS: 
Yaron’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/yaronbrook">https://twitter.com/yaronbrook</a> 
Yaron’s YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/ybrook">https://www.youtube.com/ybrook</a> 
Yoram’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/yhazony">https://twitter.com/yhazony</a> 
Yoram’s Website: <a href="https://www.yoramhazony.org/">https://www.yoramhazony.org/</a> 
Yaron Brook’s Books: 
In Pursuit of Wealth: <a href="https://amzn.to/3qmXuGo">https://amzn.to/3qmXuGo</a> 
Equal Is Unfair: <a href="https://amzn.to/3FopKOV">https://amzn.to/3FopKOV</a> 
Yoram Hazony’s Books: 
Conservatism: <a href="https://amzn.to/3sv0Nhe">https://amzn.to/3sv0Nhe</a> 
The Virtue of Nationalism: <a href="https://amzn.to/3mtxqs6">https://amzn.to/3mtxqs6</a>
PODCAST INFO: 
Podcast website: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast">https://lexfridman.com/podcast</a> 
Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://apple.co/2lwqZIr">https://apple.co/2lwqZIr</a> 
Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL">https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL</a> 
RSS: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/">https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/</a> 
YouTube Full Episodes: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexfridman">https://youtube.com/lexfridman</a> 
YouTube Clips: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexclips">https://youtube.com/lexclips</a>
SUPPORT & CONNECT: 
– Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast 
– Support on Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman">https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/lexfridman">https://twitter.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman">https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman</a> 
– LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman">https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman</a> 
– Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman">https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Medium: <a href="https://medium.com/@lexfridman">https://medium.com/@lexfridman</a>
OUTLINE: 
Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 
(00:00) – Introduction 
(09:11) – Conservatism 
(15:07) – Importance of history 
(27:09) – Rationalism vs empiricism 
(32:39) – Communism 
(40:43) – Otto von Bismarck 
(45:04) – Edmund Burke and the French Revolution 
(49:52) – USA’s founding fathers 
(1:02:47) – Founding documents 
(1:24:36) – Cohesion and Individualism 
(1:45:29) – Love and relationships 
(1:53:41) – Individual freedom 
(2:08:08) – Having children 
(2:21:54) – Reason vs emotions 
(2:28:44) – Nationalism 
(2:40:56) – Finding love 
(2:52:44) – Hope for the future 
(2:58:08) – Meaning of life

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