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#237 – Steve Viscelli: Trucking and the Decline of the American Dream

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Steve Viscelli is a former truck driver and now an economic sociologist at University of Pennsylvania studying freight transportation, including autonomous trucks. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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EPISODE LINKS:
Steve's Website: https://www.steveviscelli.com/
Big Rig (book): https://amzn.to/3EbaofP
Will Robotic Trucks Be "Sweatshops on Wheels?" (article): https://bit.ly/3vGGgpO
Johnny Cash - All I Do Is Drive (song): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEHoagHlqrE
Steve's Penn Gazette Interview: https://bit.ly/3nkRPyV
More Information on Automated Trucking: http://www.driverlessreport.org/

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OUTLINE:
Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
(00:00) - Introduction
(07:36) - Ethnography
(19:49) - Challenges of driving a truck
(38:28) - Trucking industry: State of affairs
(1:11:33) - Future of autonomous trucks
(1:37:49) - Solving the automated truck dilemma
(2:09:44) - Role of society in automated trucking
(2:36:53) - Tesla and revolutionizing the trucking industry
(2:56:33) - Hope and final thoughts

Steve Viscelli is a former truck driver and now an economic sociologist at University of Pennsylvania studying freight transportation, including autonomous trucks. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: 
– Shopify: <a href="https://shopify.com/lex">https://shopify.com/lex</a> to get 14-day free trial 
– ROKA: <a href="https://roka.com/">https://roka.com/</a> and use code LEX to get 20% off your first order 
– Sunbasket: <a href="https://sunbasket.com/lex">https://sunbasket.com/lex</a> and use code LEX to get $35 off 
– Blinkist: <a href="https://blinkist.com/lex">https://blinkist.com/lex</a> and use code LEX to get 25% off premium 
– BetterHelp: <a href="https://betterhelp.com/lex">https://betterhelp.com/lex</a> to get 10% off
EPISODE LINKS: 
Steve’s Website: <a href="https://www.steveviscelli.com/">https://www.steveviscelli.com/</a> 
Big Rig (book): <a href="https://amzn.to/3EbaofP">https://amzn.to/3EbaofP</a> 
Will Robotic Trucks Be “Sweatshops on Wheels?” (article): <a href="https://bit.ly/3vGGgpO">https://bit.ly/3vGGgpO</a> 
Johnny Cash – All I Do Is Drive (song): <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEHoagHlqrE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEHoagHlqrE</a> 
Steve’s Penn Gazette Interview: <a href="https://bit.ly/3nkRPyV">https://bit.ly/3nkRPyV</a> 
More Information on Automated Trucking: <a href="http://www.driverlessreport.org/">http://www.driverlessreport.org/</a>
PODCAST INFO: 
Podcast website: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast">https://lexfridman.com/podcast</a> 
Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://apple.co/2lwqZIr">https://apple.co/2lwqZIr</a> 
Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL">https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL</a> 
RSS: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/">https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/</a> 
YouTube Full Episodes: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexfridman">https://youtube.com/lexfridman</a> 
YouTube Clips: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexclips">https://youtube.com/lexclips</a>
SUPPORT & CONNECT: 
– Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast 
– Support on Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman">https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/lexfridman">https://twitter.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman">https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman</a> 
– LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman">https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman</a> 
– Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman">https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Medium: <a href="https://medium.com/@lexfridman">https://medium.com/@lexfridman</a>
OUTLINE: 
Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 
(00:00) – Introduction 
(07:36) – Ethnography 
(19:49) – Challenges of driving a truck 
(38:28) – Trucking industry: State of affairs 
(1:11:33) – Future of autonomous trucks 
(1:37:49) – Solving the automated truck dilemma 
(2:09:44) – Role of society in automated trucking 
(2:36:53) – Tesla and revolutionizing the trucking industry 
(2:56:33) – Hope and final thoughts

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