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#230 – Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love

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Kelsi Sheren is a veteran, artillery gunner, and founder of Brass and Unity. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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EPISODE LINKS:
Kelsi's Twitter: https://twitter.com/kelsiburns
Kelsi's Website: https://brassandunity.com
Kelsi's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kelsie_sheren
Charity: https://www.heroicheartsproject.org/
Do the F*cking Work (book): https://amzn.to/3mGhguF
Notes from Underground (book): https://amzn.to/3mN5TRF
Brothers in Arms (song): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhdFe3evXpk

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Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast
Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr
Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8
RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/
YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman
YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips

SUPPORT & CONNECT:
- Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast
- Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman
- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman
- Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman

OUTLINE:
Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
(00:00) - Introduction
(07:50) - World War II
(18:54) - Yeonmi Park, starvation, and mental health
(33:10) - Kelsi's 9/11 experience
(36:39) - Becoming a soldier
(43:07) - Artillery: The Hand of God
(52:49) - Weapons training
(1:10:35) - Pre-Deployment
(1:26:42) - Arrival to Afghanistan
(1:48:55) - Tragic war story
(2:13:59) - Feelings after tragedy
(2:17:41) - The Taliban
(2:23:17) - Retrospective: 20 years in Afghanistan
(2:39:57) - How war changes people
(2:45:18) - PTSD
(3:14:13) - Ayahuasca and mental recovery
(3:46:09) - Love
(4:04:12) - Advice for young people
(4:07:33) - Death
(4:13:22) - World War II

Kelsi Sheren is a veteran, artillery gunner, and founder of Brass and Unity. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: 
– Shopify: <a href="https://shopify.com/lex">https://shopify.com/lex</a> to get 14-day free trial 
– Justworks: <a href="https://justworks.com">https://justworks.com</a> 
– Novo: <a href="https://banknovo.com/lex">https://banknovo.com/lex</a> 
– Indeed: <a href="https://indeed.com/lex">https://indeed.com/lex</a> to get $75 credit 
– Onnit: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/onnit">https://lexfridman.com/onnit</a> to get up to 10% off
EPISODE LINKS: 
Kelsi’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/kelsiburns">https://twitter.com/kelsiburns</a> 
Kelsi’s Website: <a href="https://brassandunity.com">https://brassandunity.com</a> 
Kelsi’s Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kelsie_sheren">https://www.instagram.com/kelsie_sheren</a> 
Charity: <a href="https://www.heroicheartsproject.org/">https://www.heroicheartsproject.org/</a> 
Do the F*cking Work (book): <a href="https://amzn.to/3mGhguF">https://amzn.to/3mGhguF</a> 
Notes from Underground (book): <a href="https://amzn.to/3mN5TRF">https://amzn.to/3mN5TRF</a> 
Brothers in Arms (song): <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhdFe3evXpk">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhdFe3evXpk</a>
PODCAST INFO: 
Podcast website: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast">https://lexfridman.com/podcast</a> 
Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://apple.co/2lwqZIr">https://apple.co/2lwqZIr</a> 
Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL">https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL</a> 
RSS: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/">https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/</a> 
YouTube Full Episodes: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexfridman">https://youtube.com/lexfridman</a> 
YouTube Clips: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexclips">https://youtube.com/lexclips</a>
SUPPORT & CONNECT: 
– Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast 
– Support on Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman">https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/lexfridman">https://twitter.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman">https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman</a> 
– LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman">https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman</a> 
– Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman">https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Medium: <a href="https://medium.com/@lexfridman">https://medium.com/@lexfridman</a>
OUTLINE: 
Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 
(00:00) – Introduction 
(07:50) – World War II 
(18:54) – Yeonmi Park, starvation, and mental health 
(33:10) – Kelsi’s 9/11 experience 
(36:39) – Becoming a soldier 
(43:07) – Artillery: The Hand of God 
(52:49) – Weapons training 
(1:10:35) – Pre-Deployment 
(1:26:42) – Arrival to Afghanistan 
(1:48:55) – Tragic war story 
(2:13:59) – Feelings after tragedy 
(2:17:41) – The Taliban 
(2:23:17) – Retrospective: 20 years in Afghanistan 
(2:39:57) – How war changes people 
(2:45:18) – PTSD 
(3:14:13) – Ayahuasca and mental recovery 
(3:46:09) – Love 
(4:04:12) – Advice for young people 
(4:07:33) – Death 
(4:13:22) – World War II

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