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#197 – Jocko Willink: War, Leadership, and Discipline

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Jocko Willink is a retired Navy SEAL, co-author of Extreme Ownership, and host of Jocko Podcast. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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EPISODE LINKS:
Jocko's Twitter: https://twitter.com/jockowillink
Jocko's Website: https://jocko.com/
Jocko's Podcast: https://jockopodcast.com/
Extreme Ownership (book): https://amzn.to/3qYmcgh
Discipline Equals Freedom (book): https://amzn.to/3hFXOMa
The Dichotomy of Leadership (book): https://amzn.to/36ehH7C

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SUPPORT & CONNECT:
- Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast
- Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman
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OUTLINE:
Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
(00:00) - Introduction
(09:01) - The beauty and tragedy of war
(14:35) - Soviet Union in World War II
(20:54) - What makes a just war?
(34:30) - Jordan Peterson
(37:42) - Fear of death
(41:53) - Autonomous weapons systems
(53:28) - What makes a great leader?
(56:15) - Elon Musk - a leadership case study
(1:10:03) - Steve Jobs - a leadership case study
(1:20:16) - Sundar Pichai - a leadership case study
(1:27:15) - Young Jamie
(1:31:23) - Discipline
(1:34:15) - A day in the life of Jocko
(1:40:30) - Jiu Jitsu
(1:56:18) - Books

Jocko Willink is a retired Navy SEAL, co-author of Extreme Ownership, and host of Jocko Podcast. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: 
– Linode: <a href="https://linode.com/lex">https://linode.com/lex</a> to get $100 free credit 
– Indeed: <a href="https://indeed.com/lex">https://indeed.com/lex</a> to get $75 credit 
– SimpliSafe: <a href="https://simplisafe.com/lex">https://simplisafe.com/lex</a> and use code LEX to get a free security camera 
– Ground News: <a href="https://ground.news/lex">https://ground.news/lex</a>
EPISODE LINKS: 
Jocko’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/jockowillink">https://twitter.com/jockowillink</a> 
Jocko’s Website: <a href="https://jocko.com/">https://jocko.com/</a> 
Jocko’s Podcast: <a href="https://jockopodcast.com/">https://jockopodcast.com/</a> 
Extreme Ownership (book): <a href="https://amzn.to/3qYmcgh">https://amzn.to/3qYmcgh</a> 
Discipline Equals Freedom (book): <a href="https://amzn.to/3hFXOMa">https://amzn.to/3hFXOMa</a> 
The Dichotomy of Leadership (book): <a href="https://amzn.to/36ehH7C">https://amzn.to/36ehH7C</a>
PODCAST INFO: 
Podcast website: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast">https://lexfridman.com/podcast</a> 
Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://apple.co/2lwqZIr">https://apple.co/2lwqZIr</a> 
Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL">https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL</a> 
RSS: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/">https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/</a> 
YouTube Full Episodes: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexfridman">https://youtube.com/lexfridman</a> 
YouTube Clips: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexclips">https://youtube.com/lexclips</a>
SUPPORT & CONNECT: 
– Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast 
– Support on Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman">https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/lexfridman">https://twitter.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman">https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman</a> 
– LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman">https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman</a> 
– Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman">https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Medium: <a href="https://medium.com/@lexfridman">https://medium.com/@lexfridman</a>
OUTLINE: 
Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 
(00:00) – Introduction 
(09:01) – The beauty and tragedy of war 
(14:35) – Soviet Union in World War II 
(20:54) – What makes a just war? 
(34:30) – Jordan Peterson 
(37:42) – Fear of death 
(41:53) – Autonomous weapons systems 
(53:28) – What makes a great leader? 
(56:15) – Elon Musk – a leadership case study 
(1:10:03) – Steve Jobs – a leadership case study 
(1:20:16) – Sundar Pichai – a leadership case study 
(1:27:15) – Young Jamie 
(1:31:23) – Discipline 
(1:34:15) – A day in the life of Jocko 
(1:40:30) – Jiu Jitsu 
(1:56:18) – Books

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