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#188 – Vitalik Buterin: Ethereum 2.0

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Vitalik Buterin is the co-founder of Ethereum. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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EPISODE LINKS:
Vitalik's Twitter: https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin
Vitalik's Blog: https://vitalik.ca/

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OUTLINE:
Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
(00:00) - Introduction
(08:18) - Shiba Inu story
(25:35) - Regulation
(29:48) - Crime
(34:54) - Proof of stake vs proof of work
(47:43) - Miner extractable value
(53:19) - Scaling
(54:42) - Bitcoin blocksize wars
(1:00:51) - Hard fork vs soft fork
(1:04:34) - Craig Wright
(1:11:18) - Scaling: Sharding
(1:18:07) - Scaling: Rollups
(1:26:30) - Polygon and other Layer 2 technologies
(1:34:11) - Merging PoS and PoW chains
(1:43:49) - Lessons learned from Ethereum 2.0 failure incidents
(1:52:35) - Bitcoin vs Ethereum
(1:58:30) - Dogecoin
(2:04:38) - Elon Musk
(2:07:15) - Chainlink
(2:10:35) - Charles Hoskinson and Cardano
(2:18:08) - AI safety
(2:23:07) - NFTs
(2:25:57) - Scams
(2:35:34) - Longevity
(2:44:55) - Does death give meaning to life?
(2:50:38) - Lex and Vitalik speak Russian
(2:54:29) - Meaning of life
(2:59:48) - Dan Carlin's Hardcore History and WWII

Vitalik Buterin is the co-founder of Ethereum. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: 
– Athletic Greens: <a href="https://athleticgreens.com/lex">https://athleticgreens.com/lex</a> and use code LEX to get 1 month of fish oil 
– Magic Spoon: <a href="https://magicspoon.com/lex">https://magicspoon.com/lex</a> and use code LEX to get $5 off 
– Indeed: <a href="https://indeed.com/lex">https://indeed.com/lex</a> to get $75 credit 
– Four Sigmatic: <a href="https://foursigmatic.com/lex">https://foursigmatic.com/lex</a> and use code LexPod to get up to 60% off 
– BetterHelp: <a href="https://betterhelp.com/lex">https://betterhelp.com/lex</a> to get 10% off
EPISODE LINKS: 
Vitalik’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin">https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin</a> 
Vitalik’s Blog: <a href="https://vitalik.ca/">https://vitalik.ca/</a>
PODCAST INFO: 
Podcast website: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast">https://lexfridman.com/podcast</a> 
Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://apple.co/2lwqZIr">https://apple.co/2lwqZIr</a> 
Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL">https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL</a> 
RSS: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/">https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/</a> 
YouTube Full Episodes: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexfridman">https://youtube.com/lexfridman</a> 
YouTube Clips: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexclips">https://youtube.com/lexclips</a>
SUPPORT & CONNECT: 
– Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast 
– Support on Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman">https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/lexfridman">https://twitter.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman">https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman</a> 
– LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman">https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman</a> 
– Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman">https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Medium: <a href="https://medium.com/@lexfridman">https://medium.com/@lexfridman</a>
OUTLINE: 
Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 
(00:00) – Introduction 
(08:18) – Shiba Inu story 
(25:35) – Regulation 
(29:48) – Crime 
(34:54) – Proof of stake vs proof of work 
(47:43) – Miner extractable value 
(53:19) – Scaling 
(54:42) – Bitcoin blocksize wars 
(1:00:51) – Hard fork vs soft fork 
(1:04:34) – Craig Wright 
(1:11:18) – Scaling: Sharding 
(1:18:07) – Scaling: Rollups 
(1:26:30) – Polygon and other Layer 2 technologies 
(1:34:11) – Merging PoS and PoW chains 
(1:43:49) – Lessons learned from Ethereum 2.0 failure incidents 
(1:52:35) – Bitcoin vs Ethereum 
(1:58:30) – Dogecoin 
(2:04:38) – Elon Musk 
(2:07:15) – Chainlink 
(2:10:35) – Charles Hoskinson and Cardano 
(2:18:08) – AI safety 
(2:23:07) – NFTs 
(2:25:57) – Scams 
(2:35:34) – Longevity 
(2:44:55) – Does death give meaning to life? 
(2:50:38) – Lex and Vitalik speak Russian 
(2:54:29) – Meaning of life 
(2:59:48) – Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History and WWII

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