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#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces

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Bryan Johnson is the founder and CEO of Kernel, OS Fund, and previously Braintree. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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EPISODE LINKS:
Bryan's Twitter: https://twitter.com/bryan_johnson
Bryan's Website: https://www.bryanjohnson.co/
Kernel's Twitter: https://twitter.com/KernelCo
Kernel's Website: https://www.kernel.com/

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OUTLINE:
Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
(00:00) - Introduction
(06:57) - Kernel Flow demo
(16:10) - The future of brain-computer interfaces
(49:39) - Existential risk
(55:18) - Overcoming depression
(1:10:36) - Zeroth principles thinking
(1:18:50) - Engineering consciousness
(1:25:03) - Privacy
(1:29:33) - Neuralink
(1:39:11) - Braintree and Venmo
(1:54:54) - Eating one meal a day
(2:01:07) - Sleep
(2:20:49) - Climbing Mount Kilimanjaro
(2:27:47) - Advice for young people
(2:32:23) - Meaning of life

Bryan Johnson is the founder and CEO of Kernel, OS Fund, and previously Braintree. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: 
– Four Sigmatic: <a href="https://foursigmatic.com/lex">https://foursigmatic.com/lex</a> and use code LexPod to get up to 60% off 
– NetSuite: <a href="http://netsuite.com/lex">http://netsuite.com/lex</a> to get free product tour 
– Grammarly: <a href="https://grammarly.com/lex">https://grammarly.com/lex</a> to get 20% off premium 
– ExpressVPN: <a href="https://expressvpn.com/lexpod">https://expressvpn.com/lexpod</a> and use code LexPod to get 3 months free
EPISODE LINKS: 
Bryan’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/bryan_johnson">https://twitter.com/bryan_johnson</a> 
Bryan’s Website: <a href="https://www.bryanjohnson.co/">https://www.bryanjohnson.co/</a> 
Kernel’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/KernelCo">https://twitter.com/KernelCo</a> 
Kernel’s Website: <a href="https://www.kernel.com/">https://www.kernel.com/</a>
PODCAST INFO: 
Podcast website: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast">https://lexfridman.com/podcast</a> 
Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://apple.co/2lwqZIr">https://apple.co/2lwqZIr</a> 
Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL">https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL</a> 
RSS: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/">https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/</a> 
YouTube Full Episodes: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexfridman">https://youtube.com/lexfridman</a> 
YouTube Clips: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexclips">https://youtube.com/lexclips</a>
SUPPORT & CONNECT: 
– Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast 
– Support on Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman">https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/lexfridman">https://twitter.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman">https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman</a> 
– LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman">https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman</a> 
– Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman">https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Medium: <a href="https://medium.com/@lexfridman">https://medium.com/@lexfridman</a>
OUTLINE: 
Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 
(00:00) – Introduction 
(06:57) – Kernel Flow demo 
(16:10) – The future of brain-computer interfaces 
(49:39) – Existential risk 
(55:18) – Overcoming depression 
(1:10:36) – Zeroth principles thinking 
(1:18:50) – Engineering consciousness 
(1:25:03) – Privacy 
(1:29:33) – Neuralink 
(1:39:11) – Braintree and Venmo 
(1:54:54) – Eating one meal a day 
(2:01:07) – Sleep 
(2:20:49) – Climbing Mount Kilimanjaro 
(2:27:47) – Advice for young people 
(2:32:23) – Meaning of life

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