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#178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy

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Conversations about science, technology, history, philosophy and the nature of intelligence, consciousness, love, and power. Lex is an AI researcher at MIT and beyond.

Michael Malice is an anarchist. Yaron Brook is an objectivist. Both are podcasters and authors. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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EPISODE LINKS:
Michael's Twitter: https://twitter.com/michaelmalice
Michael's Community: https://malice.locals.com/
Michael's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5tj5QCpJKIl-KIa4Gib5Xw
Michael's Website: http://michaelmalice.com/about/
Yaron's Twitter: https://twitter.com/yaronbrook
Yaron's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/ybrook
Yaron's Website: https://yaronbrookshow.com/

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SUPPORT & CONNECT:
- Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast
- Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman
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OUTLINE:
Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
(00:00) - Introduction
(09:43) - Desert island thought experiment
(15:00) - Communism
(18:30) - Immanuel Kant
(19:39) - Donald Hoffman
(30:10) - DMT elves
(38:52) - Humility
(55:45) - Jordan Peterson and religion
(1:05:23) - Ben Shapiro: facts don't care about your feelings
(1:19:23) - Why Ayn Rand is controversial
(1:41:01) - Selfishness
(1:44:43) - Communism and fascism
(2:11:42) - Authoritarianism
(2:20:02) - Bitcoin
(2:46:13) - Anarchy debate
(3:44:08) - Dangers of communism
(3:49:47) - Favorite character in Ayn Rand s Atlas Shrugged
(3:58:25) - Advice for young people
(4:15:24) - Does love require sacrifice?
(4:23:12) - Back to the island

Michael Malice is an anarchist. Yaron Brook is an objectivist. Both are podcasters and authors. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: 
– Ground News: <a href="https://ground.news/lex">https://ground.news/lex</a> 
– Public Goods: <a href="https://publicgoods.com/lex">https://publicgoods.com/lex</a> and use code LEX to get $15 off 
– Athletic Greens: <a href="https://athleticgreens.com/lex">https://athleticgreens.com/lex</a> and use code LEX to get 1 month of fish oil 
– Brave: <a href="https://brave.com/lex">https://brave.com/lex</a> 
– Four Sigmatic: <a href="https://foursigmatic.com/lex">https://foursigmatic.com/lex</a> and use code LexPod to get up to 60% off
EPISODE LINKS: 
Michael’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/michaelmalice">https://twitter.com/michaelmalice</a> 
Michael’s Community: <a href="https://malice.locals.com/">https://malice.locals.com/</a> 
Michael’s YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5tj5QCpJKIl-KIa4Gib5Xw">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5tj5QCpJKIl-KIa4Gib5Xw</a> 
Michael’s Website: <a href="http://michaelmalice.com/about/">http://michaelmalice.com/about/</a> 
Yaron’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/yaronbrook">https://twitter.com/yaronbrook</a> 
Yaron’s YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/ybrook">https://www.youtube.com/user/ybrook</a> 
Yaron’s Website: <a href="https://yaronbrookshow.com/">https://yaronbrookshow.com/</a>
PODCAST INFO: 
Podcast website: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast">https://lexfridman.com/podcast</a> 
Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://apple.co/2lwqZIr">https://apple.co/2lwqZIr</a> 
Spotify: <a href="https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8">https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8</a> 
RSS: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/">https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/</a> 
YouTube Full Episodes: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexfridman">https://youtube.com/lexfridman</a> 
YouTube Clips: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexclips">https://youtube.com/lexclips</a>
SUPPORT & CONNECT: 
– Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast 
– Support on Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman">https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/lexfridman">https://twitter.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman">https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman</a> 
– LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman">https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman</a> 
– Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman">https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Medium: <a href="https://medium.com/@lexfridman">https://medium.com/@lexfridman</a>
OUTLINE: 
Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 
(00:00) – Introduction 
(09:43) – Desert island thought experiment 
(15:00) – Communism 
(18:30) – Immanuel Kant 
(19:39) – Donald Hoffman 
(30:10) – DMT elves 
(38:52) – Humility 
(55:45) – Jordan Peterson and religion 
(1:05:23) – Ben Shapiro: facts don’t care about your feelings 
(1:19:23) – Why Ayn Rand is controversial 
(1:41:01) – Selfishness 
(1:44:43) – Communism and fascism 
(2:11:42) – Authoritarianism 
(2:20:02) – Bitcoin 
(2:46:13) – Anarchy debate 
(3:44:08) – Dangers of communism 
(3:49:47) – Favorite character in Ayn Rand s Atlas Shrugged 
(3:58:25) – Advice for young people 
(4:15:24) – Does love require sacrifice? 
(4:23:12) – Back to the island

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