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#148 – Charles Isbell and Michael Littman: Machine Learning and Education

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Charles Isbell is the Dean of the College of Computing at Georgia Tech. Michael Littman is a computer scientist at Brown University. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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- Cash App: https://cash.app/ and use code LexPodcast to get $10

EPISODE LINKS:
Charles's Twitter: https://twitter.com/isbellHFh
Charles's Website: https://www.cc.gatech.edu/~isbell/
Michael's Twitter: https://twitter.com/mlittmancs
Michael's Website: https://www.littmania.com/
Michael's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/mlittman

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RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/
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YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips

SUPPORT & CONNECT:
- Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast
- Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman
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- Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman

OUTLINE:
Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
(00:00) - Introduction
(07:51) - Is machine learning just statistics?
(12:14) - NeurIPS vs ICML
(14:30) - Data is more important than algorithm
(20:14) - The role of hardship in education
(28:57) - How Charles and Michael met
(33:30) - Key to success: never be satisfied
(36:47) - Bell Labs
(48:15) - Teaching machine learning
(58:25) - Westworld and Ex Machina
(1:06:24) - Simulation
(1:13:14) - The college experience in the times of COVID
(1:41:52) - Advice for young people
(1:48:44) - How to learn to program
(2:00:07) - Friendship

Charles Isbell is the Dean of the College of Computing at Georgia Tech. Michael Littman is a computer scientist at Brown University. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: 
– Athletic Greens: <a href="https://athleticgreens.com/lex">https://athleticgreens.com/lex</a> and use code LEX to get 1 month of fish oil 
– Eight Sleep: <a href="https://www.eightsleep.com/lex">https://www.eightsleep.com/lex</a> and use code LEX to get special savings 
– MasterClass: <a href="https://masterclass.com/lex">https://masterclass.com/lex</a> to get 2 for price of 1 
– Cash App: <a href="https://cash.app/">https://cash.app/</a> and use code LexPodcast to get $10
EPISODE LINKS: 
Charles’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/isbellHFh">https://twitter.com/isbellHFh</a> 
Charles’s Website: <a href="https://www.cc.gatech.edu/~isbell/">https://www.cc.gatech.edu/~isbell/</a> 
Michael’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/mlittmancs">https://twitter.com/mlittmancs</a> 
Michael’s Website: <a href="https://www.littmania.com/">https://www.littmania.com/</a> 
Michael’s YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/mlittman">https://www.youtube.com/user/mlittman</a>
PODCAST INFO: 
Podcast website: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast">https://lexfridman.com/podcast</a> 
Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://apple.co/2lwqZIr">https://apple.co/2lwqZIr</a> 
Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL">https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL</a> 
RSS: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/">https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/</a> 
YouTube Full Episodes: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexfridman">https://youtube.com/lexfridman</a> 
YouTube Clips: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexclips">https://youtube.com/lexclips</a>
SUPPORT & CONNECT: 
– Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast 
– Support on Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman">https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/lexfridman">https://twitter.com/lexfridman</a> 
– Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman">https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman</a> 
– LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman">https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman</a> 
– Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage">https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage</a> 
– Medium: <a href="https://medium.com/@lexfridman">https://medium.com/@lexfridman</a>
OUTLINE: 
Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 
(00:00) – Introduction 
(07:51) – Is machine learning just statistics? 
(12:14) – NeurIPS vs ICML 
(14:30) – Data is more important than algorithm 
(20:14) – The role of hardship in education 
(28:57) – How Charles and Michael met 
(33:30) – Key to success: never be satisfied 
(36:47) – Bell Labs 
(48:15) – Teaching machine learning 
(58:25) – Westworld and Ex Machina 
(1:06:24) – Simulation 
(1:13:14) – The college experience in the times of COVID 
(1:41:52) – Advice for young people 
(1:48:44) – How to learn to program 
(2:00:07) – Friendship

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