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JSJ 375: Are You Hurting the Web?

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Stay current on JavaScript, Node, and Front-End development. Learn from experts in programming, careers, and technology every week. Become a supporter of this podcast: <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss">https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support</a>.

Sponsors<ul><li><a href="http://triplebyte.com/jsjabber" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Triplebyte</a> $1000 signing bonus </li><li><a href="https://sentry.io/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sentry</a> use code “devchat” for 2 months free </li></ul>Panel<ul><li>Charles Max Wood</li><li>Aimee Knight</li><li>Chris Ferdinandi</li><li>AJ O’Neal</li><li>Christopher Beucheler</li></ul>Episode SummaryToday the panel discusses the effect of current development practices, such as the heavy reliance JavaScript, on the web. Chris explains why he believes that current development practices are ruining the web. The panelists discuss different situations where they see complications on the web. They discuss the advantages and disadvantages of using an enterprise scale platform like React. The panel discusses Twitter’s move away from their legacy code base to CSS and JavaScript. The panelists agree that the way things are built, since it’s so JavaScript heavy, is alienating to people who work with other languages, and in turn other areas like UI are undervalued. They talk about possible reasons things ended up this way and some of the historical perception of a frontend as not a place for ‘real’ development. Because the web is now a serious platform, things associated with the backend has been thrown at the frontend where it doesn’t belong. They talk about changes in the ways programming is viewed now versus the past. There is a discussion about how market demands that have influenced the web and if the market value CSS as highly as other languages. They mention some of the Innovations in CSS. Chris shares his solutions for the problems they’ve been discussing, namely using less JavaScript, leaning more heavily on what the browser gives you out of the box, and avoiding dependency where possible. They talk about ways to get involved if you want to take a leaner approach to the web. Ultimately, it is important to embrace things about the past that worked, but sprinkle in new technology when it makes senseLinks<ul><li><a href="https://github.com/stimulusjs/stimulus" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Stimulus</a></li><li><a href="https://reactjs.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">React</a></li><li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Vue</a></li><li><a href="https://macosxautomation.com/applescript/firsttutorial/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">AppleScript</a></li><li><a href="https://www.perl.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Perl</a></li><li><a href="https://dotnet.microsoft.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">.NET</a></li><li><a href="https://angular.io/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Angular</a>  </li></ul> Follow DevChat on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/DevChattv/?__tn__=%2Cd%2CP-R&eid=ARDBDrBnK71PDmx_8gE_IeIEo5SnM7cyzylVBjAwfaOo1ck_6q3GXuRBfaUQZaWVvFGyEVjrhDwnS_tV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/devchattv?lang=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a> PicksCharles Max Wood:<ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Tiny-Epic-Galaxies-Space-Board/dp/B015QHVZCI?ie=UTF8&language=en_US&linkCode=ll1&linkId=f06bfe7482dca8bb751ed6d7cc86e2ab&qid=1548462018&sr=8-1&tag=devchattv-20" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tiny Epic Galaxies</a></li><li><a href="https://keepcurrentacademy.com/everywherejs/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">EverywhereJS</a></li></ul>Aimee Knight:<ul><li><a href="https://doist.com/blog/complete-guide-to-deep-work/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Complete Guide to Deep Work</a></li></ul>Chris Ferdinandi:<ul><li><a href="https://infrequently.org/2018/09/the-developer-experience-bait-and-switch/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Developer Bait and Switch</a></li><li><a href="https://vanillajslist.com/organizations/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Vanillajslist.com</a></li><li> Chris will be speaking at <a href="https://artifactconf.com/speakers/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Artifact Conference</a></li></ul>AJ O’Neal:<ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qYF9DZPdw" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Weird Al: White and Nerdy</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Funforge-Quantum-Revised-Board-Game/dp/B00WOFWL88?ie=UTF8&language=en_US&linkCode=ll1&linkId=f06bfe7482dca8bb751ed6d7cc86e2ab&qid=1548462018&sr=8-1&tag=devchattv-20" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Quantum board game</a></li><li><a href="https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-automatic-deployment-with-git-with-a-vps" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Deploy Sites with Only Git and SSH</a></li></ul>Christopher Beucheler:<ul><li><a href="https://material-ui.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Material</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monstress_(comics)" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Monstress</a></li></ul> Support this podcast at — <a href="https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donations" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donations</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href="https://redcircle.com/privacy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://redcircle.com/privacy</a> Become a supporter of this podcast: <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss">https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support</a>.

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