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181 JSJ The Evolution of Flux Libraries with Andrew Clark and Dan Abramov

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Sign up for <a href="https://jsremoteconf.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">JS Remote Conf</a>! <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/13qMWQVnPp-hNV9FTqwkPDtsdjhQap3WcBF0lddl60ps/edit#heading=h.dpxnamcp7w8s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dan and Andrew's super awesome, helpful document that they made for the show during preparation</a>03:22 - Andrew Clark Introduction<ul><li><a href="https://twitter.com/acdlite" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a> </li><li><a href="https://github.com/acdlite" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">GitHub</a></li><li><a href="http://opengov.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">OpenGov</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/acdlite/flummox" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">flummox</a> </li></ul>03:39 - Dan Abramov Introduction<ul><li><a href="https://twitter.com/dan_abramov" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a> </li><li><a href="https://github.com/gaearon" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">GitHub</a></li><li><a href="https://devchat.tv/js-jabber/179-jsj-redux-and-react-with-dan-abramov" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">JavaScript Jabber Episode #179: redux and React with Dan Abramov</a> </li></ul>04:03 - <a href="https://facebook.github.io/flux/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Flux</a><ul><li>Flux vs <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93view%E2%80%93controller" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">MVC</a></li></ul>09:36 - Data Flow<ul><li><a href="http://acdlite.github.io/flummox/docs/guides/why-flux-component-is-better-than-flux-mixin" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Why FluxComponent > fluxMixin</a></li><li><a href="https://medium.com/@dan_abramov/mixins-are-dead-long-live-higher-order-components-94a0d2f9e750" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mixins Are Dead. Long Live Composition.</a>  </li><li><a href="https://gist.github.com/sebmarkbage/ef0bf1f338a7182b6775" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Higher-order Components</a> </li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sebmarkbage/status/647831413186629632" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sebastian Markbåge's Tweet</a></li></ul>22:52 - Conceptualizing <a href="https://facebook.github.io/react/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">React</a> and Flux<ul><li><a href="http://conf.reactjs.com/schedule.html#flux-panel" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">React.js Conf 2015 - Flux Panel</a> </li><li>Does <a href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/redux" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">redux</a> limit ambiguity that exists in Flux?</li></ul>27:50 - Documentation 30:38 - <a href="http://elm-lang.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Elm Programming Language</a> 32:34 - Making Patterns Explicit in Frameworks<ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2MY9Q8Vsk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tom Dale @ TXJS 2015</a></li><li><a href="http://www.gigamonkeys.com/flowers/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Let a 1,000 flowers bloom. Then rip 999 of them out by the roots.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4anAwXYqLG8" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sebastian Markbåge: Minimal API Surface Area @ JSConf EU 2014</a></li></ul>36:31 - Getting Started with React and Flux<ul><li>Classes</li></ul>42:42 - Where Flux Falls Short58:23 - Keeping the Core Small; Making DecisionsPicks <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcGKfGEEONaCIl5eU53uPBnRJ9rbIH32R" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Strange Loop 2015 Videos </a> (Jamison) <a href="http://typesetinthefuture.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Typeset In The Future</a> (Jamison) <a href="https://speakerdeck.com/klamping/speaker-notes?utm_campaign=4061952748-SWLW_147&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Software+Lead+Weekly&utm_term=0_efe3d3cd5b-4061952748-131407957" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Open-source as a project model for internal work (w/ speaker notes) by Kevin Lamping</a> (Jamison) <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=fCn8zs912OE" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Explanation of Zipf's Law</a> (Dave) <a href="http://conf.utahjs.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Will Conant's talk at UtahJS 2015 on Flux</a> (Dave) <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Legend-ZERO-3-Book/dp/B00PMGUG9C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&keywords=legend+of+zero&qid=1443561853&sr=8-2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Legend of ZERO (3 Book Series) by Sara King</a> (Joe) <a href="http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeksearch.php?B1=Go&action=search&objecttype=boardgame&q=camel+up" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Camel Up</a> (Joe) <a href="http://elm-lang.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Elm Programming Language</a> (Joe) <a href="https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/boundaries" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Boundaries: A talk by Gary Bernhardt from SCNA 2012</a> (Aimee) <a href="http://nodevember.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Nodevember</a> (Aimee) <a href="http://tvfool.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">TV Fool</a> (Chuck) <a href="http://www.lowes.com/pd_2285-63374-ANT751R___?Ntt=antenna&pl=1&productId=3549244" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">RCA Outdoor Digital HDTV VHF UHF Yagi Type Antenna</a> (Chuck) <a href="http://michaelvey.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Michael Vey Book Series</a> (Chuck) <a href="http://welcometobusinesstown.tumblr.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">BusinessTown</a> (Dan) <a href="http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/05/elon-musk-the-worlds-raddest-man.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Elon Musk: The World’s Raddest Man</a> (Dan) <a href="https://drboolean.gitbooks.io/mostly-adequate-guide/content/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Professor Frisby's Mostly Adequate Guide to Functional Programming</a> (Dan) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Abiogenesis</a> (Dan) <a href="https://github.com/reactjs/react-future" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">react-future</a> (Dan) <a href="http://righteousmind.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Righteous Mind</a> (Andrew) <a href="https://github.com/lodash/lodash-fp" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">lodash-fp</a> (Andrew) <a href="http://www.cc.com/shows/inside-amy-schumer" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Inside Amy Schumer</a> (Andrew) <a href="https://github.com/facebook/dataloader" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">dataloader</a> (Andrew) <a href="http://opengov.com/careers/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Careers at OpenGov</a> (Andrew)Special Guests: Andrew Clark and Dan Abramov . Support this podcast at — <a href="https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donations" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donations</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href="https://redcircle.com/privacy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://redcircle.com/privacy</a> Become a supporter of this podcast: <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss">https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support</a>.

Sign up for <a href="https://jsremoteconf.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">JS Remote Conf</a>! <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/13qMWQVnPp-hNV9FTqwkPDtsdjhQap3WcBF0lddl60ps/edit#heading=h.dpxnamcp7w8s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dan and Andrew's super awesome, helpful document that they made for the show during preparation</a>03:22 - Andrew Clark Introduction<ul><li><a href="https://twitter.com/acdlite" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a> </li><li><a href="https://github.com/acdlite" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">GitHub</a></li><li><a href="http://opengov.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">OpenGov</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/acdlite/flummox" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">flummox</a> </li></ul>03:39 - Dan Abramov Introduction<ul><li><a href="https://twitter.com/dan_abramov" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a> </li><li><a href="https://github.com/gaearon" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">GitHub</a></li><li><a href="https://devchat.tv/js-jabber/179-jsj-redux-and-react-with-dan-abramov" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">JavaScript Jabber Episode #179: redux and React with Dan Abramov</a> </li></ul>04:03 - <a href="https://facebook.github.io/flux/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Flux</a><ul><li>Flux vs <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93view%E2%80%93controller" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">MVC</a></li></ul>09:36 - Data Flow<ul><li><a href="http://acdlite.github.io/flummox/docs/guides/why-flux-component-is-better-than-flux-mixin" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Why FluxComponent > fluxMixin</a></li><li><a href="https://medium.com/@dan_abramov/mixins-are-dead-long-live-higher-order-components-94a0d2f9e750" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mixins Are Dead. Long Live Composition.</a>  </li><li><a href="https://gist.github.com/sebmarkbage/ef0bf1f338a7182b6775" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Higher-order Components</a> </li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/sebmarkbage/status/647831413186629632" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sebastian Markbåge's Tweet</a></li></ul>22:52 - Conceptualizing <a href="https://facebook.github.io/react/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">React</a> and Flux<ul><li><a href="http://conf.reactjs.com/schedule.html#flux-panel" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">React.js Conf 2015 - Flux Panel</a> </li><li>Does <a href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/redux" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">redux</a> limit ambiguity that exists in Flux?</li></ul>27:50 - Documentation 30:38 - <a href="http://elm-lang.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Elm Programming Language</a> 32:34 - Making Patterns Explicit in Frameworks<ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2MY9Q8Vsk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tom Dale @ TXJS 2015</a></li><li><a href="http://www.gigamonkeys.com/flowers/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Let a 1,000 flowers bloom. Then rip 999 of them out by the roots.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4anAwXYqLG8" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sebastian Markbåge: Minimal API Surface Area @ JSConf EU 2014</a></li></ul>36:31 - Getting Started with React and Flux<ul><li>Classes</li></ul>42:42 - Where Flux Falls Short58:23 - Keeping the Core Small; Making DecisionsPicks <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcGKfGEEONaCIl5eU53uPBnRJ9rbIH32R" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Strange Loop 2015 Videos </a> (Jamison) <a href="http://typesetinthefuture.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Typeset In The Future</a> (Jamison) <a href="https://speakerdeck.com/klamping/speaker-notes?utm_campaign=4061952748-SWLW_147&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Software+Lead+Weekly&utm_term=0_efe3d3cd5b-4061952748-131407957" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Open-source as a project model for internal work (w/ speaker notes) by Kevin Lamping</a> (Jamison) <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=fCn8zs912OE" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Explanation of Zipf's Law</a> (Dave) <a href="http://conf.utahjs.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Will Conant's talk at UtahJS 2015 on Flux</a> (Dave) <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Legend-ZERO-3-Book/dp/B00PMGUG9C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&keywords=legend+of+zero&qid=1443561853&sr=8-2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Legend of ZERO (3 Book Series) by Sara King</a> (Joe) <a href="http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeksearch.php?B1=Go&action=search&objecttype=boardgame&q=camel+up" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Camel Up</a> (Joe) <a href="http://elm-lang.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Elm Programming Language</a> (Joe) <a href="https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/boundaries" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Boundaries: A talk by Gary Bernhardt from SCNA 2012</a> (Aimee) <a href="http://nodevember.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Nodevember</a> (Aimee) <a href="http://tvfool.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">TV Fool</a> (Chuck) <a href="http://www.lowes.com/pd_2285-63374-ANT751R___?Ntt=antenna&pl=1&productId=3549244" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">RCA Outdoor Digital HDTV VHF UHF Yagi Type Antenna</a> (Chuck) <a href="http://michaelvey.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Michael Vey Book Series</a> (Chuck) <a href="http://welcometobusinesstown.tumblr.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">BusinessTown</a> (Dan) <a href="http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/05/elon-musk-the-worlds-raddest-man.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Elon Musk: The World’s Raddest Man</a> (Dan) <a href="https://drboolean.gitbooks.io/mostly-adequate-guide/content/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Professor Frisby's Mostly Adequate Guide to Functional Programming</a> (Dan) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Abiogenesis</a> (Dan) <a href="https://github.com/reactjs/react-future" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">react-future</a> (Dan) <a href="http://righteousmind.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Righteous Mind</a> (Andrew) <a href="https://github.com/lodash/lodash-fp" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">lodash-fp</a> (Andrew) <a href="http://www.cc.com/shows/inside-amy-schumer" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Inside Amy Schumer</a> (Andrew) <a href="https://github.com/facebook/dataloader" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">dataloader</a> (Andrew) <a href="http://opengov.com/careers/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Careers at OpenGov</a> (Andrew)Special Guests: Andrew Clark and Dan Abramov. Support this podcast at — <a href="https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donations" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donations</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href="https://redcircle.com/privacy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://redcircle.com/privacy</a> Become a supporter of this podcast: <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss">https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support</a>.

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