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The West Bank Is Reaching Breaking Point

CONFLICTED

An ex-Al Qaeda jihadi turned MI6 spy and a former monk turned filmmaker, have been embedded at the heart of conflicts in the Middle East. Together Aimen Dean and Thomas Small unpack the realities of war, fundamentalism and their global implications through first-hand experience.

Hamza Abu Howidy returns for another Conflicted Conversation. Last time he appeared, he told us his personal story of growing up in Hamas-ruled Gaza, how he was imprisoned and tortured by Hamas for speaking out against their oppression, and how he entered into exile in Germany just before the 7 October attacks changed everything.

This time he switches from Gaza to the West Bank, telling Thomas all about the other side of Palestine — a side which goes overlooked, but which is increasingly becoming a zone of almost unbearable conflict.

Hamza and Thomas discuss:

 Settler violence as settler terrorism

 How Israeli settlements undermine the Oslo process 

 Settlement expansion as a strategy to prevent a Palestinian state 

 The shift from a two-state ideal to a one-state reality 

 The Hardal movement and Smotrich’s political world 

 The Hilltop Youth: origins, ideology and violence 

 The dual legal system in the West Bank 

 The Yehuda Shmuel Sherman incident and the revenge attacks that followed 

 E1 and the threat to a viable Palestinian state 

 The West Bank economy after 7 October 

 Palestinian municipal and national elections 

 Israeli elections and the lack of hope for political change 

 Israel’s post-7 October security doctrine 

 The Board of Peace and the problem of Hamas disarmament 

 Arab disillusionment with resistance ideology 

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