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The CIA’s Zero Units in Afghanistan

CONFLICTED

An ex-Al Qaeda jihadi turned MI6 spy and a former monk turned filmmaker, have been embedded at the heart of conflicts in the Middle East. Together Aimen Dean and Thomas Small unpack the realities of war, fundamentalism and their global implications through first-hand experience.

After a tragic shooting in Washington, D.C., Thomas and Aimen trace the story back to Afghanistan and to the CIA-backed Zero Units that carried out some of the coalition’s most clandestine kill-or-capture missions.

They discuss:

 The November 2025 D.C. shooting and the alleged link to a former Zero Unit operative

 What the Zero Units were designed to do and why they were so controversial

 Afghanistan's geography of terrorism and counterterrorism

 The lifelong psychological damage caused by black ops

 How the Doha Agreement sidelined the US’s Afghan partners

 The halfway house vetting pipeline through German

 The problem of PTSD, monitoring, and support for both Afghan allies and U.S. veterans

 Whether America can fight future wars if local allies believe they’ll be left behind

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Produced by Thomas Small and edited by Lizzy Andrews.
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