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Simon Sebag Montefiore: How the Modern Middle East Was Made

CONFLICTED

An ex-Al Qaeda jihadi turned MI6 spy and a former monk turned filmmaker, have been embedded at the heart of conflicts in the Middle East. Together Aimen Dean and Thomas Small unpack the realities of war, fundamentalism and their global implications through first-hand experience.

In this Conflicted Conversation, Simon Sebag Montefiore returns to the show, this time to talk about his new book The Cauldron: The Making of the Modern Middle East.

Simon explains:

 How Britain and France tried — and often failed — to shape the post-Ottoman Middle East

 Why Sykes–Picot is a misleading shorthand for the region’s modern borders

 How Atatürk, Nasser and other Middle Eastern leaders remade the region through their own choices

 The violent shift from Ottoman pluralism to nationalist, more homogeneous states

 Why Nasser’s charisma produced a powerful Arab myth but a disastrous authoritarian model

 Why traditional monarchies in Morocco, Jordan and the Gulf often outlasted revolutionary republics

 How America became the Middle East’s dominant anti-imperial imperial power after Europe’s retreat

 Why militias, parastates and insurgencies make “total victory” in today’s Middle East so elusive

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Visit Simon’s website: www.simonsebagmontefiore.com

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Conflicted is a Message Heard production.

Executive Producers: Jake Warren & Max Warren.

Produced and edited by Thomas Small.
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