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My Road to Conflicted (with Jake Warren)

CONFLICTED

An ex-Al Qaeda jihadi turned MI6 spy and a former monk turned filmmaker, have been embedded at the heart of conflicts in the Middle East. Together Aimen Dean and Thomas Small unpack the realities of war, fundamentalism and their global implications through first-hand experience.

Because Aimen is still away, we’re taking this opportunity to introduce you all to our executive producer Jake Warren. A journalist and programme-maker, Jake not only had the idea for Conflicted, he is also the founder of Message Heard, the company that produces the show.

Jake and Thomas discuss:

 Conflicted’s origin story

 Jake’s Hungarian-Jewish grandfather who escaped on the Kindertransport

 His early work for Vice Media in North Korea, Rwanda, and Lebanon

 How he won the trust of notorious Islamist preacher and organiser Anjem Choudary while covering his story

 Visiting the family of murdered soldier Lee Rigby

 How Jake first came across Aimen’s story

 How Thomas and Aimen became friends

Join the Conflicted Community here: https://conflicted.supportingcast.fm/ 

Find Jake on X: https://x.com/TheJakeWarren

Find us on X: https://x.com/MHconflicted

And Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MHconflicted

And Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/conflictedpod

And YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ConflictedYoutube 

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Conflicted is a Message Heard production.

Executive Producers: Jake Warren & Max Warren.

Produced and edited by Thomas Small.
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